U.N. Threatens NewsMax Sources

Newsmax ^ | 12/3/03

[DoctorMichael]

............"They (U.N. management) are very upset about the story, but it is true," claimed a U.N. security officer.............

Huh?

>Snort<

[Gritty]

The second officer napped for more than 30 minutes, not realizing the first officer seated only feet away was dead.

Huh?

How does one sleep through a gunshot 30 feet away?

[GluteusMax]

How does one sleep through a gunshot 30 feet away?

Implies the "alert" guard didn't even notice his coworker was already dead.

[Onelifetogive]

...the U.N.'s sidearms (9mm Glocks) do not carry conventional safety locks and as such, are more prone to accidentally discharge...

Security Deputy Muhammed Fife.

[Tired_of_the_Lies]

Unlike conventional bullets, hollow points will explode on impact and shatter inside a target's body. The attributes of such ammunition is that there is less chance of a ricochet, endangering bystanders. Also, fewer hollow points are needed to kill a target because of its shattering characterisitc.

From the description, it sounds like hollow points are safer bullets.

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

In the kitchen!

With a candlestick, and an AK-47!

[fourdeuce82d]

Just sent the following to news max...


I imagine you're going to get a ton of emails re: Stewart Stogel's story on the UN security guard, "dangerous" Glocks, and "deadly" hollowpoint ammunition- they've been bouncing around on various conservative/gun oriented computer forums, and generating a lot of hilarity.

I'll throw my two cents in anway.

The source used by Mr. Stogel is an idiot. The key to gun safety is keeping your finger off the trigger, period. Glocks do not have external safeties, but they don't go bang unless the trigger is pressed, period. In this they are no different than the revolvers carried by millions of law enforcement officers over the past century.

The comment about "hollowpoint" bullets being unsuitable for crowded environments is particularly risible. Frangible/expanding rounds are much more likely to stop within the target's body...9mm full metal jacket on the other hand is a notorious overpenetrator, quite capable of zipping right through a naughty person, and killing the nice person behind him. Although they are thought to have a better chance of stopping and individual with fewer shots, they are not markedly more lethal than conventional ammunition.

Besides, if someone is being naughty enough to need shooting, he needs to be shot a whole lot- i.e. shooting is a last resort, used only in extremis...if the Goblin doesn't warrant being shot a lot, he probably shouldn't be shot AT ALL.

Finally, a guard said he didn't keep ammunition in his weapon, but close by...does this mean the yahoo is wandering around eating donuts with no magazine in his weapon? And nobody notices? Or does he keep an empty magazine in his weapon, requiring him, in the event he has to shoot a goblin, to a) dump the empty (which often requires two hands as Gaston Glock did not see fit to design "drop free" mags") b) insert a second, loaded magazine, and c)rack the slide...all this under the stress of facing a dangerous naughty person?

This is completely against the procedures followed and taught by every major (and minor) police department in this country, the majority of which issue Glocks, or allow them to be carried.

What's the REAL story behind the story? Are UN guards there becauase they failed to pass the test for night watchman at a toilet paper factory? Or is the security staff actually a rehabilitation program for people recovering from severe head injuries?

My heart goes out to the guy who killed himself, and particularly his family.

But Sweet Bouncing Buddha on a pogo stick...the guys who are left are scary stupid.

[Tailgunner Joe]

BANG!

[mewzilla]

Guess shooting the guard wasn't enough. Now they want to shoot the messenger.

[in the Arena]

The problem is compounded by the extremely deadly "hollow point" bullets employed by the U.N. security force.

Unlike conventional bullets, hollow points will explode on impact and shatter inside a target's body. The attributes of such ammunition is that there is less chance of a ricochet, endangering bystanders. Also, fewer hollow points are needed to kill a target because of its shattering characterisitc.

Once shot, a hollow point will most likely kill its target, even if accidentally fired. Obviously, there is less margin for error with this ordinance.

That whole word jumble boggles the mind...

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

[William Terrell]

Once shot, a hollow point will most likely kill its target, even if accidentally fired.

Read this statement carefully for the proper level of hilarity.

[frostbit]

U.N. morons.

Yeah, it's been a real pain these last 15 or so years with an issued Glock. Stupid thing just goes off randomly every few hours. Really annoying when I'm trying to sleep.

And once, I accidently dropped a hollow point round on my foot when I was loading the magazine. They had to amputate everything below my knee.

[GovernmentShrinker]

a second U.N. security officer had opted taken to take a brief nap in the secluded and closed lounge where the first officer apparently took his life. The second officer napped for more than 30 minutes, not realizing the first officer seated only feet away was dead.

Sounds like the UN could greatly improve its security by closing off the Security Guards Napping Lounge. It seems clear that one security guard going in there for a nap didn't think it at all odd that another security guard appeared to be napping there at the same time. I wonder what the average number of napping guards is in there at any given time?

[ARCADIA]

Hollowpoint rounds have tiny thermal nuclear devices that are set to go off as soon as they hit their target. There is no escape, and we are all doomed. Then again a paper wad fired at close range (how long were his arms?) would be just as lethal.

[Gritty]

How does one sleep through a gunshot 30 feet away?

Implies the "alert" guard didn't even notice his coworker was already dead

Uh, ok. One would think the large puddle of blood would have alerted him something was amiss. But then again perhaps the room was dark and the donuts soothing.

Do these guys get paid for sleeping on the job, or are they merely as worthless as the rest of the people at the UN?

[Howlin]

I thought the UN’s guns had a little flag pop out that said “bang!”.

"I thought the UN’s guns had a little WHITE flag pop out that said “bang!”.

There, that's much better.

[GluteusMax]

Do these guys get paid for sleeping on the job, or are they merely as worthless as the rest of the people at the UN?

I'm leaning toward worthless personally, but I suspect they were used to getting paid for sleeping on the job too.

[freedomlover]

Once shot, a hollow point will most likely kill its target, even if accidentally fired.

Stupid bullet.

[avenir]

"This is supposed to be a house of peace ..."

Yes, that's the fantasy. The reality is more like "a brood of vipers."