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1 posted on 12/03/2003 1:26:51 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
That guard wasn't napping. Someone drugged him, then put the hit on the other guard, who knew something about the sneaky-steamy relationship between Kofi and Hillary.
2 posted on 12/03/2003 1:29:20 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: areafiftyone
woops, forgot </tinfoil> (or is it?)
4 posted on 12/03/2003 1:30:35 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: areafiftyone
U.N. is also not happy with the NewsMax report that the U.N.'s sidearms (9mm Glocks) do not carry conventional safety locks and as such, are more prone to accidentally discharge than the Smith & Wessons previously used by the United Nations.

The problem is compounded by the extremely deadly "hollow point" bullets employed by the U.N. security force.

AAAAAAHHH gun paranoia alert!!! Not hollow points!!!! We need safer guns and SAFER BULLETS!!!

7 posted on 12/03/2003 1:31:17 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: areafiftyone
>The second officer napped for more than 30 minutes, not realizing the first officer seated only feet away was dead.

Is this the kind of security we'd have in Iraq today if we had "gone in with the UN" as the Dems suggest?

9 posted on 12/03/2003 1:32:34 PM PST by kevao
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To: areafiftyone
For an organization that has stated it wants to disarm regular Americans, they have no compunction against their own minions packing Glocks with hollow points. Wonder if they're carrying 10 round mags...yeah right. I'm sure they are carrying pre-ban capacity mags.
11 posted on 12/03/2003 1:33:52 PM PST by GluteusMax
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To: areafiftyone
Obviously, there is less margin for error with this ordinance.

Yes, there is very little margin for error in some municipal laws. There also might be very little margin for error with this ordnance.

20 posted on 12/03/2003 1:40:41 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The difference between drunken sailors and Congress is that the sailors spend their own money.)
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To: areafiftyone
............"They (U.N. management) are very upset about the story, but it is true," claimed a U.N. security officer.............

Huh?

>Snort<

21 posted on 12/03/2003 1:41:00 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: areafiftyone
The second officer napped for more than 30 minutes, not realizing the first officer seated only feet away was dead.

Huh?

How does one sleep through a gunshot 30 feet away?

22 posted on 12/03/2003 1:41:44 PM PST by Gritty ("We need the legitimacy of the UN to move forward (in Iraq)"-hillary rodham clinton)
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...the U.N.'s sidearms (9mm Glocks) do not carry conventional safety locks and as such, are more prone to accidentally discharge...

Security Deputy Muhammed Fife.

24 posted on 12/03/2003 1:45:37 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: areafiftyone
Just sent the following to news max...


I imagine you're going to get a ton of emails re: Stewart Stogel's story on the UN security guard, "dangerous" Glocks, and "deadly" hollowpoint ammunition- they've been bouncing around on various conservative/gun oriented computer forums, and generating a lot of hilarity.

I'll throw my two cents in anway.

The source used by Mr. Stogel is an idiot. The key to gun safety is keeping your finger off the trigger, period. Glocks do not have external safeties, but they don't go bang unless the trigger is pressed, period. In this they are no different than the revolvers carried by millions of law enforcement officers over the past century.

The comment about "hollowpoint" bullets being unsuitable for crowded environments is particularly risible. Frangible/expanding rounds are much more likely to stop within the target's body...9mm full metal jacket on the other hand is a notorious overpenetrator, quite capable of zipping right through a naughty person, and killing the nice person behind him. Although they are thought to have a better chance of stopping and individual with fewer shots, they are not markedly more lethal than conventional ammunition.

Besides, if someone is being naughty enough to need shooting, he needs to be shot a whole lot- i.e. shooting is a last resort, used only in extremis...if the Goblin doesn't warrant being shot a lot, he probably shouldn't be shot AT ALL.

Finally, a guard said he didn't keep ammunition in his weapon, but close by...does this mean the yahoo is wandering around eating donuts with no magazine in his weapon? And nobody notices? Or does he keep an empty magazine in his weapon, requiring him, in the event he has to shoot a goblin, to a) dump the empty (which often requires two hands as Gaston Glock did not see fit to design "drop free" mags") b) insert a second, loaded magazine, and c)rack the slide...all this under the stress of facing a dangerous naughty person?

This is completely against the procedures followed and taught by every major (and minor) police department in this country, the majority of which issue Glocks, or allow them to be carried.

What's the REAL story behind the story? Are UN guards there becauase they failed to pass the test for night watchman at a toilet paper factory? Or is the security staff actually a rehabilitation program for people recovering from severe head injuries?

My heart goes out to the guy who killed himself, and particularly his family.

But Sweet Bouncing Buddha on a pogo stick...the guys who are left are scary stupid.
27 posted on 12/03/2003 2:05:28 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: *bang_list; *UN_List
BANG!
28 posted on 12/03/2003 2:08:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: areafiftyone
Guess shooting the guard wasn't enough. Now they want to shoot the messenger.
29 posted on 12/03/2003 2:10:16 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: areafiftyone
Once shot, a hollow point will most likely kill its target, even if accidentally fired.

Read this statement carefully for the proper level of hilarity.

32 posted on 12/03/2003 2:22:08 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: areafiftyone
U.N. morons.

Yeah, it's been a real pain these last 15 or so years with an issued Glock. Stupid thing just goes off randomly every few hours. Really annoying when I'm trying to sleep.

And once, I accidently dropped a hollow point round on my foot when I was loading the magazine. They had to amputate everything below my knee.
33 posted on 12/03/2003 2:26:55 PM PST by frostbit (Non Sibi, sed Patriae. "Not self, but country.")
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a second U.N. security officer had opted taken to take a brief nap in the secluded and closed lounge where the first officer apparently took his life. The second officer napped for more than 30 minutes, not realizing the first officer seated only feet away was dead.

Sounds like the UN could greatly improve its security by closing off the Security Guards Napping Lounge. It seems clear that one security guard going in there for a nap didn't think it at all odd that another security guard appeared to be napping there at the same time. I wonder what the average number of napping guards is in there at any given time?

34 posted on 12/03/2003 2:40:48 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: areafiftyone
"This is supposed to be a house of peace ..."

Yes, that's the fantasy. The reality is more like "a brood of vipers."
40 posted on 12/03/2003 6:35:06 PM PST by avenir (Die, die, U.N., and thy shame with thee!)
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To: GummyIII
Check this out....
41 posted on 12/03/2003 6:36:02 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: areafiftyone
Once shot, a hollow point will most likely kill its target, even if accidentally fired.

Now THAT goes without saying...

48 posted on 12/04/2003 4:13:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ted Kennedy is a left-wing Neanderthal turkey!)
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