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To: Modernman
2) you cannot prove the existence of the Holy Spirit, since this is an article of faith

When you can prove the validity of relying on empirical evidence (and only empirical evidence) for all knowledge, then you'll be out of the faith boat and have a basis upon which to demand proof of others. Until then, welcome to the ship.

208 posted on 12/04/2003 9:48:10 AM PST by Tares
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To: Tares
When you can prove the validity of relying on empirical evidence (and only empirical evidence) for all knowledge, then you'll be out of the faith boat and have a basis upon which to demand proof of others

I don't really care what creationists believe. I have no desire to shoot down their worldview. On the other hand, it does seem that creationists have a major desire to disprove evolution. Why is that, I wonder?

216 posted on 12/04/2003 10:09:10 AM PST by Modernman (I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer....)
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To: Tares
Empirical evidence can be validated by more than one disinterested observer. In other words, empirical evidence will appear the same regardless of the attitudes of the observer.
219 posted on 12/04/2003 10:20:03 AM PST by Junior ("Brillig and the Slithy Toves" would be a great name for a band.)
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