Vince Foster: What the Media Won’t Tell You

NewsMax.com ^ | 12/04/03

[texasbluebell]

Swear to God guys: NO administration is going to blow the whistle on any other administration for its little white lies or foreign coups.

Truer words were never spoken, and that's all you need to know.

[texasbluebell]

There was no blood, what kind of suicide was that?

None to be found.

I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation of this.

[texasbluebell]

As I recall, the WH videotapes of the parking lots do NOT show Foster leaving at any point.

When did he get in his car to drive to the park where his body was found?

Inquiring minds would like to know, but there is no hope of ever knowing the answer here.

[Tymesup]

There was a thread here on the serial number trace. The consensus was that it was a dead end.

[Tymesup]

"A young stewardess lived throught he initial crash, but died of a severed femoral artery while being flown around in a chopper that arrived on the scene."

I think her last name was Kelly or Kelley. I think a pathologist type named Janoski (?) said the femoral business was from the autopsy. I think this was from an interview with Ruddy.

[Tymesup]

And the technician in charge of the tapes departed this mortal coil, too.

[Tymesup]

See post 84

[Tymesup]

"I'll bet dollars to donuts that Hitlery herself ordered it."

Foster's demise looks like the B team pulled the trigger and/or that it wasn't planned. Look at the pile of inconsistencies that an A team wouldn't leave around.

The subsequent actions - getting past the videotape, intimidating the key players, spinning the media - look like the A team took over later on.

[Badray]

"I have always suspected Ken Star was thrown the Lewinsky bone, to throw everything else off track..."

Your intuition or suspicion is very good. When I talked to David Schippers, he explained that the Independent Council law was written in such a way the the IC HAD to go to Congress with the FIRST evidence of an impeachable offense. In this case, lying to the grand jury and the Federal judge. At that point, the investigation into the other scandals basically came to a grinding halt. The result - just as you suspected. Quite possibly, Starr's people were getting close to something.

Monica not only serviced clinton, proverbially speaking, she screwed all of America.

[Badray]

"I think her last name was Kelly or Kelley."

Shelley Kelley, IIRC.

"I think a pathologist type named Janoski (?) said the femoral business was from the autopsy. I think this was from an interview with Ruddy."

Kathleen Janowski was a Naval photographer assigned to the forensics section. When the bodies were brought in, she was taking the photos and she is the one that found what appeared to be a gunshot wound to RB's head. She, along with all of the rest of the crew that she worked with, had their lives ruined by the administration and the military with threats of prosecution for revealing information. I met Kathleen and you won't find a more credible witness. She is also a life long Democrat who voted for clinton.

For some reason that I can't understand, she switched parties. /sarcasm

[JamesA]

Geepers creepers, ya don't think the Clintons had anything to do with this do ya?

[mirkwood]

Ron Brown had a bullet hole in the back side of his head. The plane crashed. the Brown family wanted to retrieve the body. Bill Clinton ignored the family and the law and had him cremated. Ron was supposed to testify the very next day against the XXclintonsXX Those x 's are for dead people.

[mirkwood]

Your tax dollars at work.

[Ditter]

Oh goody! My favorite murder mystery is back on FR again. Go Allan Go!

[Badray]

"Your tax dollars at work."

Not mine. I have a special arrangement where my tax dollars only get spent on what I want. ;-)

[Qwinn]

While your comments have been interesting, the only thing that seems required to me here would be complicity by the FBI in the coverup.

Pictures have been posted on this thread of the gun he had in his hand when the body was found - it was black. Is that -not- a picture of Vince Foster's dead hand holding a black gun at the scene of his death? I have no idea if it is or not, but it was entered into this thread as if it were. It sure looks like it really was a black gun to me. I think we'd need to discredit those pictures to continue with the "it was silver" argument.

One doesn't have to believe that Mrs. Foster actively complied in the coverup. The only thing necessary to believe is that they purposefully described the gun to her incorrectly as "silver", and she drew her conclusion from that false description.

Qwinn

[IncPen]

Thanks for the ping...

Foster's demise looks like the B team pulled the trigger and/or that it wasn't planned. Look at the pile of inconsistencies that an A team wouldn't leave around.

The subsequent actions - getting past the videotape, intimidating the key players, spinning the media - look like the A team took over later on.

Other plausible theories/thoughts:

• It was suggested that H!llary and Vince had a 'getaway' spot, an apartment, somewhere in DC (or, perhaps the WH had a place for offsite meetings or trysts - not hard to believe). This theory supposes that Foster killed himself there and the B team did a sloppy cleanup job

• There were inconsisitencies in H!llary's story, IIRC on the night of Foster's death. She was in Little Rock (?) and had a series of phone calls with the WH, which skewed her 'deniablity timeline'. The thinking on this goes that 1.) she was checking up on the 'hit' or 2.) was informed of his death and a story/coverup was crafted

• The other salient theory was that Foster was about to crack from the pressure. The Wall Street Journal had printed one of its exposes of the Clinton Circle (Who is Vince Foster?) and the spotlight caused him to come unglued. Because he was deeply involved in both Clinton personal and public misdeeds - the keeper of the keys, if you will - his defection or breakdown would have doomed the political aspirations of the queen. Considering that people get killed every day over much less, it seems at least possible, barring evidence to the contrary, that this would be reason enough to bring it all out in the open.

While it may seem so to you and me, and as we are taught as supple school children to believe that the SCOTUS is immune to the vagaries of politics (the scorching in the 2000 election notwithstanding), I'm upon reflection persuaded to believe that the photos will not see the light of day, and we're more the poorer for it...

[Shooter 2.5]

The FBI didn't volunteer any information as to what type of gun was involved when they asked her what guns he owned. She replied about the silver gun.

The photograph they showed her was the Fort Marcy gun. She replied that it looked like the gun that was kept on the Father's bed stand.

From what I can tell of that website, had Mrs. Foster replied that Vince owned an Allen Sidelock Rimfire Revolver, the website would have claimed the FBI would have shown her a picture of that one regardless of what was photographed in his hand at Fort Marcy.

[Phaedrus]

If ever there were a case for public disclosure of government records and photos, it’s the Vince Foster case.

Absolutely!

[pinz-n-needlez]

Not only that, Jesse and Jackson and Dick Gregory were stirring up trouble for Clinton in January '98 over Brown's death. Gregory was starting a fast.

Then Drudge posted his Monica story, Clinton introduced Jackson to Wall Street, and the Brown story faded away again.

Pinz