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To: Angelus Errare
The US is currently working with elements of the PKK in Iraq.

Sri Lanka is not a US ally, sorry. Sri Lanka also engages in routine torture of its citizens, and now that Hussein is gone from Iraq, Sri Lanka claims the throne as the #1 country in the world for unexplained disappearances. US allies don't flood the US with asylum seekers.

At some point the honest person has to admit this is not Al-Qaida black-and-white.
15 posted on 12/04/2003 3:54:39 PM PST by thoughtomator (The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
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To: thoughtomator
The US has negotiations with Fatah too, of which the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades is an arm of. Doesn't make the Brigades any less of a terrorist organization. More to the point, the last I heard the US is working with the KDP and the PUK, not the PKK, in northern Iraq.

As far as Sri Lanka goes, they are our "ally" in the same sense that Uzbekistan or Algeria are. Call it the lesser of two evils, if you like. That doesn't justify what the Tigers do or make them any less of a terrorist organization, anymore than the fact that the Colombian military has supported death squads makes allowing someone to support FARC or the ELN morally defensible.

Like I said, if you want to make excuses for these organizations you aren't going to leave yourself much room to explain why exactly it should be okay to support them and not for American Muslims to shill out cash for Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
17 posted on 12/04/2003 3:59:17 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: thoughtomator
Since every dollar we spend, at some point has within ten degrees of separation, benefitted a terrorist, or a supporter thereof... be it filling up at a corner gas station owned for the benefit of wackos, or be it giving money to the sierra club, allowing another subsidiary to hire an employee who suppoorts ELF...

EVERY one of us can be twisted into being in some form of terrorist support. Every one of us can be accused, or investigated as a result, even of unfounded accusations.

and that is EXACTLY how LEOS, and STATISTS intend to use this law. I saw not long ago, that a legal whorehouse had been shut down, by twisting the patriot act to include some aspect of their clientelle or business practices... all via the patriot act.

and yes, we have a LOT of freepers who cheer this on, because they think this supports good ole family values and the Christian faith.

Will they feel that way, when a hillary clone takes the power unto themself and twists the law against the "good people" of america? NO... but it WILL be WAY too late.

There will be more and more abuses of power.
The ninth was right, imho, to strike this down...
I hope it is upheld.
that patriot act needs to be challenged in eveyr aspect, in order to more sharply define where it may, and where it may NOT be used, or HOW and upon WHOM.

The law should have never applied to Americans first.
It should have been applied to foreigners, illegals and spies FIRST and foremost.

I think even the ninth could be right to strike this down.
52 posted on 12/04/2003 7:07:19 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino... LWMPTBHFTOSTA....)
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