To: johnae
It was posted yesterday. Before you and everyone else here leap to conclusions, read the actual opinion.
Humanitarian Law Project v. Ashcroft
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov I would guess that less than 1 in 100 people here with an opinion are capable of stating in layman's terms what the case and the decision are about.
The reaction to this case on FR has been a big disappointment to me. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but a couple years back one could count on people reading the opinion, or at least a review from a respectable person with experience in the field, before lighting the torches.
9th Cir. does a LOT of really assinine things, but this opinion ain't one of them.
4 posted on
12/04/2003 3:31:21 PM PST by
thoughtomator
(The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
To: thoughtomator
To: thoughtomator
9th Cir. does a LOT of really assinine things, but this opinion ain't one of them. So, are you saying that Fox News is flat-out lying?
To: thoughtomator; Thud
They're idiots. The ruling is idiocy.
"...we construe 18 U.S.C. § 2339B to require proof that a person charged with violating the statute had knowledge of the organizations designation or knowledge of the unlawful activities that caused it to be so designated."
Notice should be sent to the organization, and it should be required to tell any supporters; but publishing the designation in the Register was sufficient notice- that's how these people found out!
"Since the Secretary designated the PKK as a foreign terrorist organization, Humanitarian Law Project has been deterred from assisting Kurds living in Turkey."
No, they've only been deterred from helping the PKK.
A very common, childish even, logical fallacy is involved here.
Can congress outlaw the donation of anything for any reason to a foreign ( I repeat foreign) terrorist ( or non-terrorist!) organization?
Of course it can.
35 posted on
12/04/2003 5:34:41 PM PST by
mrsmith
To: thoughtomator
Before you and everyone else here leap to conclusions, read the actual opinion
Don't confuse me with the facts. Had this been support for abortion clinic bombers, the court reached the correct result
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