Hateful words a war crime (United Nations criminalizes "hate speech")

The Washington Times ^ | Betsy Pisik

[SauronOfMordor]

NEW YORK - With a trio of guilty verdicts yesterday, the U.N. tribunal for Rwanda has established that men armed only with words can commit genocide.

Three Rwandan media executives were convicted by the international tribunal of committing and inciting genocide, war crimes and persecution in a case that will set a precedent for the new International Criminal Court.

[SauronOfMordor]

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[Diddle E. Squat]

So I assume the UN will now go after the Cincinnati and LA media for trying to incite riots and bloodshed?

[You Gotta Be Kidding Me]

"Three Rwandan media executives were convicted by the international tribunal of committing and inciting genocide, war crimes and persecution in a case that will set a precedent for the new International Criminal Court."

In those few words, lie the entire reason behind the US decision to ditch that kangaroo court.

Who decides what nasty words are just 'too nasty'? Why, the tribunal judges, of course. If we can't trust domestic judges farther than a snake could piss up a rope, how in God's name could we trust foreign judges?

[fiscally_right]

Bah please, I read today that these Rwandan guys announced names of people they wanted killed.. I think that's probably already illegal in the US.

[fiscally_right]

What I mean to say, is that it seems to go beyond inciting violence, but actually ordering and being complicit in its execution.

[SauronOfMordor]

The international elite will not rest until the American public is brought under the jurisdiction of international tribunals

[Dark Wing]

You and Bob are going to love this one.

[ladyinred]

What about the Hollywood left's "Hate Bush" dinner a couple of nights ago? Does the UN know about that?

This is just disgusting actually, and more reason for us to get rid of the UN!!!

[SauronOfMordor]

these Rwandan guys announced names of people they wanted killed.. I think that's probably already illegal in the US.

Then they should have worded it as "giving orders to commit murder". The precedent is the important thing. This precedent will now be used in future cases before the ICC, and will evolve to criminalize any speech the UN doesn't like

[You Gotta Be Kidding Me]

"The international elite will not rest until the American public is brought under the jurisdiction of international tribunals."

Then they won't rest. That's the way it is in hell. ;-)

[FLAMING DEATH]

If the U.N. is really concerned about genocide, then they should advocate the most effective insurance against it: an armed populace.

Funny they don't.

[The Duke]

Is that the camel's nose I see inching under the tent flap?

I think the *REAL* question is from whence does the UN derive it's legal authority?

[Batrachian]

I think it's quite legitimate that the propaganda ministers of a genocidal regime are prosecuted for war crimes. This is not, in principal, the criminalization of speech, but the prosecution of vicious murderers. It is not legal to publicly call for the killing of individuals or groups. That's called "incitement", and is not protected speech, and shouldn't be.

I don't trust the U.N. either, they sat on their hands while the genocide took place and only moved in afterwards, but these Rwandans most certainly are guilty.

The real problem here is not that these individuals where prosecuted, but that so many others aren't. I think this was a show trial designed to make it look like the U.N. is doing something, but thousands and tens of thousands of the most vicious mass murderers imaginable are going free. That doesn't matter as long as the U.N. can do things like this to show that their acting.

I think I would describe this as "Clinton Justice". It's only designed to create the appearance of doing something, and is all for show.

[nothingnew]

I guess Patton would be guilty of the same crime in his speeches to his troops?

Don't follow the Rwanda stuff too much, but I think most of the world is now certifiable.

FMCDH

[GOPJ]

Thought crimes. Step one toward the ultimate nightmare.

Their weapons: the government-sponsored radio station known as "Radio Machete" and "Hate Radio" and a weekly newspaper whose agenda was the extermination of the country's Tutsi majority.

[sergeantdave]

So when the UN passes its usual bombastic, hate-filled resolutions condemning Israel and a terrorist blows up a restaurant in Tel Aviv, we can round up UN scum and find them guilty of genocide. I look forward to that.

[BCrago66]

Actually "hateful words" are sometimes a crime in the USA too. Solicitation: "I'll give you 1 million to kill that guy." Incitement: "Let's all right now go and kill that guy." So this isn't irrational - and Rawandan radio stations were definately inciting mass murder.

[MACVSOG68]

Actually "hateful words" are sometimes a crime in the USA too.

How about..."Hello, boneheads. This is your favorite enemy, Ann. How are all you orphans of the Pacific? Are you enjoying yourselves while your wives and sweethearts are running around with the 4F's in the States? How do you feel now when all your ships have been sunk by the Japanese Navy? How will you get home?"

Were those hateful words. They were reportedly those of Tokyo Rose, prosecuted after the war for treason. But they were just words on the radio...

[Dr. Marten]

"(United Nations criminalizes "hate speech")

I HATE THE UN.... I would love to see that twisted gun barrel in front of the UN building..shoved right up Kofi's Anus.

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

This is just incitement to murder which I'd imagine is already illegal in most of the western world.