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What you need to know about the 'religion of peace', Part II
Jewish World Review ^ | Dec. 1, 2003 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/05/2003 8:26:27 AM PST by presidio9

Last week's column contained excerpts from my interview with Robert Spencer, author of "Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West." He makes the case that violent Islam stems from a straight reading of Islamic religious texts, and that moderate Muslims need to face up to and repudiate this so that true reform can take place.

This is Part II of the interview:

Larry Elder: You cite Koran passages that state Jews, Christians and nonbelievers have three choices: conversion, second-class citizenship or death. When people say these kinds of things are "taken out of context," you say this simply isn't true?

Robert Spencer: Yes. They're dealing from a broad tradition within Islam that mandates violence against nonbelievers. It's an unpleasant fact . . . but . . . I give abundant testimony from Islamic sources to this effect, and it's no use denying it.

Elder: These madrasas where they are teaching the Koran, teaching hatred of Jews, Christianity and the West — your argument is that they are not corrupting Islamic text, they are teaching actual text.

Spencer: They're working from very clear Islamic text. Radical Muslims around the world call Jews "monkeys" and "pigs." This comes from several very clear passages in the Koran that say Jews and Christians are under the curse of Allah, because of their disobedience and refusal to accept that Muhammad is a prophet . . . G-d turned them into monkeys and pigs. The fact that this kind of hatred is so deeply rooted in core Islamic text makes it all the more difficult to eradicate.

Elder: What does "jihad" — an essential duty of every Muslim — mean?

Spencer: When people say that jihad is a peaceful struggle — it means "struggle," literally — it means to bring the soul into line with the teachings of the Koran and the will of the law, that's true. But it's not the only meaning of jihad, or even the principal meaning. Throughout Islamic history, and Islamic theology and law, you have violent jihad being the primary understanding of what it means — this collective responsibility of the Islamic community to wage war against non-Muslims until they either convert or submit as second-class citizens under Islamic rule.

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1 posted on 12/05/2003 8:26:28 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Robert Spencer is a bright guy and knows of what he speaks.

I have read his book "Islam Unveiled" and belive me, it is freighting. The Koran in my mind was not dictated by the Angel Gabriel as Mohammad claimed, but by the devil himself. Remember that satan can take many forms, including angelic ones, after all, he was one we are told.

So, be afraid, be very afraid of these people. They are dangerous.

2 posted on 12/05/2003 4:02:01 PM PST by mc5cents
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