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To: KAUAIBOUND
The closest comparison I can make with the "fundamental religion" of environmentalism is that of the suicidal religion of Islamic fundamentalism.

Disagree. Marxism has many of the characteristics of a religion (prophecies, inerrant scripture, promises of a better future, etc), and it takes the place of (normal) religion for its true believers. That's what the enviros are.

Green on the outside, red on the inside

(Green is the color of Islam, though...)

112 posted on 12/06/2003 4:43:19 PM PST by Virginia-American
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113 posted on 12/06/2003 4:53:03 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Virginia-American
Green on the outside, red on the inside

I was about to point that out. I don't think it's possible today to consider the environmental movement without also considering the fact that environmentalists today are inextricably linked to Marxism. Has anyone ever seen an environmentalist activist that isn't also a leftist? How about conservative environmentalists? Supply-side environmentalists? I sure haven't. Indeed, the very idea is laughable, but have we considered why this is so? I'm not suggesting that we conservatives should become eco-freaks, but rather why eco-freaks are always Marxists. Does being an eco-freak drive one to Marxism, or is it the other way around?

There's something important here, methinks. We're all familiar with the description above, but why is that? What is driving these eco-freaks into the arms of Marx? Hatred of capitalism? Hatred of religion? It's happened too often for me not to think that something snapped in their minds that's causing this. I'd like to see a strategy emerge to stop whatever is doing this so future generations don't go the same route.

Drawing from Mr. Crichton's argument, here's a thought to bandy around. Say you start with an avowed Marxist. Marxism contends that religion is bad, the "opiate of the masses", and should be rejected. Only the proletariat matters. Fine and dandy. They cheer on the ACLU and try to expunge the world of religion, starting with Christianity.

There's a problem, though: the human mind is hardwired in that we need a "religion", or its equivalent. One could choose Marxism, and indeed most Marxists probably do this, but some people need something more. Christianity is out (and by inclusion Judiasm), so what's left? Islam? Too far a leap for Western Marxists where Islam isn't present to any great measure. Ah, but there's Gaia...so they go eco-freak and form the environmentalist religion. Not a religion in the technical sense so good-ol' Marx is happy, and they get their religious fix.

Thoughts?
135 posted on 12/06/2003 9:21:37 PM PST by Windcatcher
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