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St. Nicholas belongs in any reclamation of Christmas
courierpress.com ^ | December 6, 2003 | Terry Mattingly

Posted on 12/06/2003 10:41:08 AM PST by Destro

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To: Oztrich Boy
Dude, next time you post a link to back up your claim, make sure you read it to see if it does or not-in this case it does not...Sloppy.

Whether or not there ever was an historic Bishop Nicholas of Myra (Jones thinks that there may well have been)

21 posted on 12/06/2003 3:00:59 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Katya
My kids faithfully put out their shoes on the eve of December 5th

Kids?

The shoes I put out last night were were stuffed this morning, too.

longjack

22 posted on 12/06/2003 3:07:22 PM PST by longjack
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To: Destro
Yeah, I saw that. and Whatever! Jones can think whatever he likes.

whether or not there was a historical bishop, all "accounts of his life" reek of myth. "The Power of Three" Three maidens, three condemmed innocents, three murdered boys, three generals, three sailors.

23 posted on 12/06/2003 3:10:26 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Noöne has the right not to be offended" John Cleese)
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To: Oztrich Boy
I am more than willing to leave miracles to "mythology" as a historian who is very comfortable in explaining the super natural with human insight it is clear he existed as a real person with real historical weight that later generations thought was worthy of myth linkage.

All myths are based on facts. You were just sloppy in your assertion that St. Nicholas did not exist and you link as your proof a source which says he probably did.

24 posted on 12/06/2003 3:44:36 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
That's a terriffic idea.
25 posted on 12/06/2003 4:38:16 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: OpusatFR
Advent Reflections for All -- 2003

The Advent Calendar

The Advent Wreath

The Jesse Tree

26 posted on 12/06/2003 5:16:26 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: aposiopetic
Merry Christmas!
27 posted on 12/08/2003 9:39:48 AM PST by Romulus (Nothing really good ever happened after 1789.)
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To: Destro

BTTT on 12-06-04!


28 posted on 12/06/2004 7:58:04 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Destro

At our kids' old Catholic School, the Christmas Bazaar features "Pictures with St. Nicholas". We don't do 'Santa Claus'.


29 posted on 12/06/2004 10:37:21 AM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: Destro

BTTT on the Feast of St. Nicholas, 6 December 2005.


30 posted on 12/06/2005 7:21:45 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Destro
American Catholic’s Saint of the Day



December 6, 2005
St. Nicholas
(d. 350?)

The absence of the “hard facts” of history is not necessarily an obstacle to the popularity of saints, as the devotion to St. Nicholas shows. Both the Eastern and Western Churches honor him, and it is claimed that, after the Blessed Virgin, he is the saint most pictured by Christian artists. And yet, historically, we can pinpoint only the fact that Nicholas was the fourth-century bishop of Myra, a city in Lycia, a province of Asia Minor.

As with many of the saints, however, we are able to capture the relationship which Nicholas had with God through the admiration which Christians have had for him—an admiration expressed in the colorful stories which have been told and retold through the centuries.

Perhaps the best-known story about Nicholas concerns his charity toward a poor man who was unable to provide dowries for his three daughters of marriageable age. Rather than see them forced into prostitution, Nicholas secretly tossed a bag of gold through the poor man’s window on three separate occasions, thus enabling the daughters to be married. Over the centuries, this particular legend evolved into the custom of gift-giving on the saint’s feast. In the English-speaking countries, St. Nicholas became, by a twist of the tongue, Santa Claus—further expanding the example of generosity portrayed by this holy bishop.

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The critical eye of modern history makes us take a deeper look at the legends surrounding St. Nicholas. But perhaps we can utilize the lesson taught by his legendary charity, look deeper at our approach to material goods in the Christmas season and seek ways to extend our sharing to those in real need.

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“In order to be able to consult more suitably the welfare of the faithful according to the condition of each one, a bishop should strive to become duly acquainted with their needs in the social circumstances in which they live.... He should manifest his concern for all, no matter what their age, condition, or nationality, be they natives, strangers, or foreigners” (Decree on the Bishops' Pastoral Office, 16).



31 posted on 12/06/2005 5:54:18 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Destro

BTTT on the Optional Memorial of St. Nicholas, December 6, 2006!


32 posted on 12/06/2006 11:55:56 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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