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This is a city where SUV burning was first made a fad by ELFers and some people simply will not talk to SUV owners unless it is to scream or throw things at them.

It works like this; got to the conservative Bethel district or North Eugene, and SUVs exist in abundance. Go the the free wheeling Whiteaker district or South Eugene where Clinton won both his POTUS elections by around five votes to one, and these l'il critters abound.

Sometimes buying an SUV here breaks up friendships and alienates neighbors. Sometimes these hybrids are bought merely to keep social standing in the large liberal and green community.

If any of these companies offered a tye dye color sceme for the interior and designer Grateful Dead stickers for the exterior, it would show up here.

Tye dye is Eugene's official urban not so camoflage.

1 posted on 12/06/2003 3:10:29 PM PST by bicycle thug
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To: dixiechick2000
Sometimes buying an SUV here breaks up friendships and alienates neighbors.

Is this true where you live too?
2 posted on 12/06/2003 3:13:41 PM PST by bourbon (I brought all this so you can survive when law is lawless.)
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To: bicycle thug
My problem with these people is that there is only 1 SUV in the top 10 best selling cars and trucks in America.....the Ford Explorer which is #7. The top three selling vehicles in America are the Ford F150, the Chevy Silverado pickup and the Dodge Ram pickup in that order.

If these people really wanted to attack low gas mileage vehicles they'd go after the pick up owners but no, they attack SUV lovers because they know they are mostly driven by women who are sensitive to this global warming garbage. It's all a lie perpetuated to tug on the heart strings of SUV driving women. Well, I hate to tell them, but I just bought a new extended Chevy Trailblazer and my mother just bought a Hummer. Eat your heart out environazis.

3 posted on 12/06/2003 3:18:45 PM PST by volchef (Don't take a butcher's advice on how to cook meat. If he knew, he'd be a chef. - Andy Rooney)
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To: bicycle thug
This is great technology. I have driven many of the alternative fuel vehicles, and my brother, editor and publisher of GREEN CAR JOURNAL, has probably driven almost all of them.

My brother predicted several years ago that plug in electric cars would not make it. We would go the hybrids and eventually to hydrogen fuel cells.

4 posted on 12/06/2003 3:19:03 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary would get 100% of the Islamist Terrorist vote)
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To: bicycle thug
Rhetorical question:

What is the environmental impact of the manufacture, operation and disposal of the batteries used in these cars?

5 posted on 12/06/2003 3:20:49 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: bicycle thug
It's also unclear how.....hydrogen fuel-cell cars.. will affect the growing market for hybrids.

Not much, IMO -- the infrastructure for H2 cars involves a huge investment, there is little energy savings, and there are still problems with fuel-cell catalysts.

8 posted on 12/06/2003 3:28:57 PM PST by expatpat
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To: bicycle thug
More stupid stuff from Eugene, where it is still the 1960's.

These whackos seem to sall congreagte in Oregon, don't they.

Home of E.L.F. and other sundries anarchrists.

11 posted on 12/06/2003 3:41:11 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: bicycle thug
Thw big question to be asked is How much will your new batties cost in a few years... That will make up for a lot of gas savings
13 posted on 12/06/2003 3:48:52 PM PST by Phyto Chems
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To: bicycle thug
Sorry about the spelling.... The big question to be asked is How much will your new batteries cost in a few years... That will make up for a lot of gas savings
14 posted on 12/06/2003 3:53:34 PM PST by Phyto Chems
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To: bicycle thug
Wendy Ray is an idiot.
15 posted on 12/06/2003 4:07:23 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (This tagline has been used before, so I won't repeat it.)
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To: bicycle thug
Hybrids are OK...but hybrid or not, we need more diesel engines in vehicles. We could be saving a lot of fuel if there were more diesels, as there are in Europe.

I'd like to see that new 6.0 liter Ford Power Stroke in a sedan (325 hp/560 lb. ft.).

Audi has a nice 4 liter TDI V-8, too.

18 posted on 12/06/2003 4:18:54 PM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: bicycle thug
"The air in America would be vastly cleaner if everyone replaced his or her current ride with a brand-new "Incredible Hulk" Ford Excursion."
Car&Driver Jan 2001
21 posted on 12/06/2003 4:48:09 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: bicycle thug
I checked out a Prius, its a very nice car. If I were currently in the market for one, I would consider it. I got no problems with "eco" cars, I just think that the market should decide. I think some of these hybrids just might catch on.
28 posted on 12/06/2003 6:04:23 PM PST by Paradox (Cogito ergo boom.)
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To: bicycle thug
The Prius is a nifty little car. Let those who like that sort of thing buy a bunch.
30 posted on 12/06/2003 7:05:47 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: bicycle thug
Hmph! Misleading title. I expected to read about owners getting an electrical shock due to some flaw in the hybrid.
32 posted on 12/06/2003 9:34:45 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: bicycle thug
I have no problem with hybrids - when the market is driving it's demand - not government regs.

I always say to my liberal friends when they bitch about internal combustion engines/vehicles: How else are we going to get the condoms to pre-schoolers? How do we get needles to addicts? How do we activist liberal judges to and from court? You get the picture.
41 posted on 05/04/2004 10:47:47 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: bicycle thug
Try putting a couple suitcases and a pak n play in one of these hybrids. Can't do it.
42 posted on 05/04/2004 10:51:56 AM PDT by petercooper (We did not have to prove Saddam had WMD, he had to prove he didn't.)
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