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From savior to assassin - How killer germs have defeated our last antibiotic
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 12/7/03 | AMY ELLIS NUTT

Posted on 12/07/2003 12:52:39 PM PST by Incorrigible

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Incorrigible
This has been around for a while -- I believe Michael Crichton wrote a novel about the problem. IMO, new antibiotics need to be developed and used only in hospitals, to avoid prematurely-discontinued treatment, and can never be used for animals or for any but the most severe diseases.
21 posted on 12/07/2003 1:59:04 PM PST by expatpat
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To: gunnedah
In the long run, the FDA will have killed more people than it has saved.
22 posted on 12/07/2003 1:59:33 PM PST by ChemistCat (Someone you know is alone and sad this holiday season. Find that person and help.)
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To: Incorrigible
Read later.
23 posted on 12/07/2003 2:00:11 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: tarheal
You make very sensible & re-assuring comments. In all reality we can compare the unfortunate case of the teenage boy the article starts with to cases where "previously healthy" children of the same age die suddenly of heart failure.

This happend just a year or two ago to a young high school girl from a local school. She just died after a soccer game. Obviously she had been examined time & time again by doctors, and had no known heart problems. But she died all the same.

Sometimes unpredictable things happen.
24 posted on 12/07/2003 2:00:43 PM PST by jocon307 (The Dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: tarheal
I'm told that many resistant colonies -- usually staph. aureus, come from hospitals themselves, where overuse of disinfectants have killed off all but the hardiest strains.

There's a lesson here for the Safety Sams and Sandys. A little bump or bruise now and again is good for the soul. Sometimes the cost of "protection" is only a greater vulnerability.

25 posted on 12/07/2003 2:01:12 PM PST by IronJack
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To: mahinahoku
Can we buy that here? What form is it sold in? And where?

Getting hit by lightning is one way to get a dose of ozone...

27 posted on 12/07/2003 2:05:44 PM PST by steve86
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To: A CA Guy
It's not a big deal, let's say half the world's population dies...so what?

I can't believe you said this in response to the issue at hand. This is the kind of thing I expect to hear from misanthropic, DDT-hating, social engineering environmentalist whackos.

This is the kind of thing I'd expect to hear from a Stalinist sympathizer who thinks in terms of the masses and making omelets.

Hope nobody you love is in the half of the population that dies from resistent bacterial infections.

Conservatives and libertarians are supposed to value life. It's the liberals who have such a cavalier attitude about the deaths of huge numbers of people who happen to be on the wrong side of a Utopian vision.

I am appalled and embarrassed that a regular FRF poster would have such an attitude.

28 posted on 12/07/2003 2:07:57 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Incorrigible
Well, I'm bummed out.
29 posted on 12/07/2003 2:10:49 PM PST by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else...")
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To: handk
Ozone kills all bacteria, viruses, pathogens and fungi upon contact.

Zero side effects.

Ozone is highly poisonous. Its OSHA TWA is 0.1 ppm, with an emergency short term exposure limit of 1 ppm. 50% human lethality is obtained at 50 ppm exposure for 30 minutes. It's also explosive, and highly unstable.

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/10028156.html

30 posted on 12/07/2003 2:17:06 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: mahinahoku

Click Image or here for web site.

Also, do a Google search on "ozone therapy".


31 posted on 12/07/2003 2:18:20 PM PST by handk (All I demand is mindless robotic obedience, and rightly so.)
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To: handk
do they make tubes or spray cannisters of ozone ? I wonder if it could treat wounds like a spray can of air can clean up computers.
32 posted on 12/07/2003 2:21:57 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
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To: Judith Anne; Domestic Church
Ping. Comments?
33 posted on 12/07/2003 2:26:27 PM PST by steve86
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To: Right Wing Professor; handk
Ozone kills all bacteria, viruses, pathogens and fungi upon contact. Zero side effects. Ozone is highly poisonous. Its OSHA TWA is 0.1 ppm, with an emergency short term exposure limit of 1 ppm. 50% human lethality is obtained at 50 ppm exposure for 30 minutes. It's also explosive, and highly unstable.

Whoa nelly fellas.

Ozone is used in lots of applications here in USA. Most of the bottled water is OZONATED. Atheltic swimming pools are increasingly being switched from chlorine to ozone for health reasons. I am working on a project where I am using ozone. Anything at a certain concentration is toxic.

34 posted on 12/07/2003 2:28:43 PM PST by corkoman
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To: handk
If these quacks were actually producing ozone concentrations they claim to be producing - 119 micrograms per mL, which corresponds to over 60,000 ppm - the output of their device would be lethal in one breath. Fortunately, I think we can be quite sure it doesn't. But in any case, I'll be passing on the link to the FDA.

In the meantime, please stop offering potentially fatal medical advice on FR, and peddling snake-oil.

35 posted on 12/07/2003 2:30:33 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: corkoman
Ozone is used in lots of applications here in USA. Most of the bottled water is OZONATED. Atheltic swimming pools are increasingly being switched from chlorine to ozone for health reasons. I am working on a project where I am using ozone. Anything at a certain concentration is toxic.

Sure. Chlorine is also toxic at a comparable level to ozone. If you are working with ozone, please (for your own safety) read the link to the Centers for Disease Control I posted earlier in the thread.

36 posted on 12/07/2003 2:33:19 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Incorrigible
"Meanwhile, the pharmaceutical industry cut back, or dropped altogether, antibiotic research programs in favor of those aimed at developing the more profitable "lifestyle" drugs, such as Celebrex, Lipitor and Viagra."

Once these deadly bugs become widespread i.e. people dying left and right, they'll become profitable quite quickly.

37 posted on 12/07/2003 2:36:57 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Right Wing Professor
thanks for the warning - i too am professorial and my lab and the efforts of my technicians are sufficiently vented.
38 posted on 12/07/2003 2:37:14 PM PST by corkoman
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To: Centurion2000
Ozone decomposes in minutes to hours under normal conditions. One of my colleagues just the day before yesterday told me a story about a student who accidentally condensed ozone in a liquid nitrogen bath while using it for a chemical reaction. The explosion was quite spectacular.
39 posted on 12/07/2003 2:37:16 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Centurion2000
I viewed a video of an interview with a German doctor, probably filmed about 15 years ago. He showed one patient with a a leg sore that refused to heal naturally, and this patient had an air-tight inflatable bag strapped around the wound and it was being pumped full of ozone.

He also showed another patient having her blood treated. The blood was withdrawn into a half-gallon sized cannister, then pumped back in, "clean as a whistle". He also showed an x-ray viewing light board of stroke victims' brain scans treated with ozone within 24 hours of the stroke. Plus stroke victims' brain scans not treated with ozone. The stroke victims treated with ozone had a 95% or greater full recovery to normal.

Ozone is simply oxygen with an extra electron. It is created when you combine oxygen with an energy source, such as sunlight, lightning or electricity. You know how invigorating and refreshing the air is after a lightning storm? That's ozone. It's oxygen that's been "kicked up a notch" (as Emeril would say).

And because ozone is essentially oxygen, the human body loves it, and in dozens of studies (primarily in Europe), the "side effect" rate was found to be something like 0.00027%. Patients describe the treatment as creating a sense of euphoria.

On a related note, read this:

The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer
Dr. Otto Warburg
Lecture delivered to Nobel Laureates on June 30, 1966
at Lindau, Lake Constance, Germany


There are prime and secondary causes of diseases. For example, the prime cause of the plague is the plague bacillus, but secondary causes of the plague are filth, rats, and the fleas that transfer the plague bacillus from rats to man. By the prime cause of a disease, I mean one that is found in every case of the disease.

Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. Almost anything can cause cancer. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. The prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen (oxidation of sugar) in normal body cells by fermentation of sugar.

All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen, whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by fermentation. All normal body cells are thus obligate aerobes, whereas all cancer cells are partial anaerobes. From the standpoint of the physics and chemistry of life this difference between normal and cancer cells is so great that one can scarcely picture a greater difference. Oxygen gas, the donor of energy in plants and animals, is dethroned in the cancer cells and replaced by the energy yielding reaction of the lowest living forms, namely the fermentation of sugar.

In every case, during the cancer development, the oxygen respiration always falls, fermentation appears, and the highly differentiated cells are transformed into fermenting anaerobes,  which have lost all their body functions and retain only the now useless property of growth and replication. Thus, when respiration disappears, life does not disappear, but the meaning of life disappears, and what remains are growing machines that destroy the body in which they grow.

All carcinogens impair respiration directly or indirectly by deranging capillary circulation, a statement that is proven by the fact that no cancer cell exists without exhibiting impaired respiration. Of course, respiration cannot be repaired if it is impaired at the same time by a carcinogen.

To prevent cancer it is therefore proposed first to keep the speed of the blood stream so high that the venous blood still contains sufficient oxygen; second, to keep high the concentration of hemoglobin in the blood; third, to add always to the food, even of healthy people, the active groups of the respiratory enzymes; and to increase the doses of these groups, if a precancerous state has already developed. If at the same time exogenous carcinogens are excluded rigorously, then much of the endogenous cancer may be prevented today.

These proposals are in no way utopian. On the contrary, they may be realized by everybody, everywhere, at any hour. Unlike the prevention of many other diseases, the prevention of cancer requires no government help, and not much money.

Many experts agree that one could prevent about 80% of all cancers in man, if one could keep away the known carcinogens from the normal body cells. But how can the remaining 20%, the so-called spontaneous cancers, be prevented? It is indisputable that all cancer could be prevented if the respiration of body cells were kept intact.

Nobody today can say that one does not know what the prime cause of cancer is. On the contrary, there is no disease whose prime cause is better known, so that today ignorance is no longer an excuse for avoiding measures for prevention. That the prevention of cancer will come there is no doubt. But how long prevention will be avoided depends on how long the prophets of agnosticism will succeed in inhibiting the application of scientific knowledge in the cancer field. In the meantime, millions of men and women must die of cancer unnecessarily.

 


40 posted on 12/07/2003 2:44:38 PM PST by handk (All I demand is mindless robotic obedience, and rightly so.)
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