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SADDAM COLONEL MAKES CHILLING CONFESSION
New York Post ^ | 12/08/03 | ANDY GELLER

Posted on 12/08/2003 12:40:32 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 8, 2003 -- An Iraqi colonel has confirmed that Saddam Hussein had secret weapons of mass destruction - and revealed that front-line commanders were given warheads that could be launched against coalition forces within 45 minutes. Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh told London's Telegraph he was the source of the British government's claim - later repeated by President Bush - that Saddam could launch a biological or chemical attack in 45 minutes after the order was given.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aldabbagh; iraq; wmd

1 posted on 12/08/2003 12:40:33 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
It doesn't matter. You'll only read about this stuff in tabloids like the Post.
The mainstream media will never put this on the front page.
The radical left will never concede that GWB was right to go into Iraq.
The truth be damned.
2 posted on 12/08/2003 12:44:08 AM PST by ppaul
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To: kattracks
I can see why they didn't use them. Launching your chem/bio weapon from an RPG means you're in range too.
3 posted on 12/08/2003 12:59:12 AM PST by Dan Cooper
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To: kattracks

4 posted on 12/08/2003 1:06:02 AM PST by Timesink (I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
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To: kattracks
"The West should thank God that the Iraqi army decided not to fight"

Do all these clowns suffer from the Baghdad Bob syndrome? You know, the predisposition to make up stuff wholecloth? What happened to these weapons? Did they use the super secret cloaking device to hide them? Jedi mind tricks? Come on people.
6 posted on 12/08/2003 3:04:13 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
Maybe they just buried them.

Iraqi Weapons under the sands and ground

7 posted on 12/08/2003 3:11:53 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
This guy was an anti-Saddomite. He had a vested interest in getting America to do the dirty work of getting rid of Saddom. There is at least the possibility that he said what he had to say to get America to invade.

Before the flaming starts, I'm not saying there aren't WMDs, I'm just saying to take this guy with an appropriate grain of salt. Or ask him...commanders were given warheads...you were a commander, where did yours go? What commanders, by name, had them, when and where?
8 posted on 12/08/2003 3:25:57 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: kattracks
Possibly he’s telling the truth about the WMD. Possibly he’s only trying to make points with the American Forces.
Many Bush supporters will believe him because it’s what they wish to believe. If the same colonel stated there were no WMD would they believe him? The proof will be in the actual finding of a cache.
9 posted on 12/08/2003 3:30:40 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: Big Midget
So where are these weapons? Hidden beneath the sand? Hope not. Because if they existed once, they still exist. And if they still exist, we can surely expect them to be used sooner or later.
Can I have a shudder?

SHUDDER!

10 posted on 12/08/2003 3:45:40 AM PST by Ragirl
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To: kattracks
no time if this clown is accurate. We overran them. And he would tell us where. It's another arab fairy tale. It's another Tora Bora Bat Cave with a Bat Mobile. It's another double eclipse mahdi sighting. More crap. A Christmas goose would blush.
11 posted on 12/08/2003 5:23:19 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
Bearing in mind that underground storage bunkers are still being found in Germany nearly 60 years after the third reich, that still have live explosive & in some instances chemical ordnance you are suprised that after less than 1 year we haven't found everything that might be dangerous in the sand pile known as Iraq?
12 posted on 12/08/2003 6:58:26 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: Nebr FAL owner
you are suprised that after less than 1 year we haven't found everything that might be dangerous in the sand pile known as Iraq?

Judging by his posts on this thread, I don't think kinghorse would admit the presence of Iraqi WMD's if he found a stack of them in his living room. Sorta like a Baghdad Bob for the Buchananites....

13 posted on 12/08/2003 7:04:31 AM PST by r9etb
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To: ppaul
The mainstream media will never put this on the front page. The radical left will never concede that GWB was right to go into Iraq. The truth be damned.

Of course not! The radical left still hasn't conceded that GWB won the presidential election in 2002.

14 posted on 12/08/2003 7:09:01 AM PST by bondservant (God save this country!)
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To: Timesink
bump
15 posted on 12/08/2003 7:21:58 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: r9etb
Early on we found quite a few jets buried in the sand in Iraq. So it looks as if Saddaam like burying stuff.
16 posted on 12/08/2003 7:57:21 AM PST by tillacum (Today we give thanks for our brave,our best, volunteer military. Godbless Each and Everyone of them)
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To: tillacum
fighting words
The Literal Left
Have opponents of the war been vindicated? Not so fast.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003, at 1:23 PM PT

The truly annoying thing that I find when I am arguing with opponents of the regime-change policy in Iraq is their dogged literal-mindedness. "Your side said that coalition troops would be greeted with 'sweets and flowers!' " Well, I have seen them with my own eyes being ecstatically welcomed in several places. "But were there actual sweets and flowers?" Then again, "You said there was an alliance between Bin Laden and Saddam, and now people think that Saddam was behind 9/11." Well, the administration hasn't said there was a 9/11 connection, but there are reams of verifiable contact between al-Qaida and Baghdad. Bin Laden supported Saddam, and his supporters still do, and where do you think this lovely friendship was going? "But there's no direct link between Saddam and 9/11." Finally, "You said that weapons of mass destruction would be found, and they haven't been." Well, what I said in my Slate/Plume book was that the programs were latent—which is why we wouldn't face WMD in case of an invasion, as the peace movement kept saying we would—but that I had been believably told of stuff hidden in a mosque and that I had every reason to think that Saddam Hussein was trying to make up for what he'd lost or illegally destroyed by buying it off the shelf from North Korea. Incidentally, if the Iraqis destroyed the stocks they had once declared, they were in serious breach of the U.N. resolutions, which stipulated that they be handed over and accounted for. "But they said they'd find actual stuff."

This is not just tiresome in itself. It convinces me that, if the Bush and Blair administrations had not raised the overdue subject of Saddam's hellish regime, nobody else was going to. Aided by occasional political ineptitude in Washington and London, the opponents of the policy have done no better than act as if Iraq had nothing to do with them and maintain that things were all right as they were, or at any rate could only be made worse by an intervention. The idea that Iraq's state and society were headed for confrontation and implosion anyway just doesn't occur to such minds.

I think that this is why the David Kay report has received such a grudging audience for its important findings. I pause to note, just for my own sake, that the report contains a photograph of laboratory equipment stacked in a mosque. Much more salient is the story of Saddam's dealings with Kim Jong-il, which was written up at length by David Sanger and Thom Shanker in the New York Times on Dec. 1.

You may remember the secret and disguised shipload of North Korean Scuds, intercepted on its way to Yemen by the Spanish navy just before war began last March. Now downloaded hard drives from Iraqi government computers, plus interviews with Iraq officials and scientists, have established that Saddam Hussein was trying to buy Rodong missiles from Pyongyang and was hoping to purchase the rights to the North Korean production line. The significance of this is obvious enough: The Rodong missile has a range much greater than that prohibited to Iraq by the U.N. resolutions. It also makes sense: North Korea is bankrupt and starving and exports only weapons and drugs while Saddam's Iraq had plenty of spare off-the-record cash in American dollars. The intended transshipment point and the site of the negotiations, Syria in both instances, also indicates that Syria has long been at least a passive profiteer from the sanctions imposed on its neighbor.

Even more interesting is the fashion in which the deal broke down. Having paid some $10 million dollars to North Korea, the Iraqi side found that foot-dragging was going on—this is the discussion revealed on one of the hard drives—and sought a meeting about where the money might be refunded. North Korea's explanation for its slipped deadline was that things were getting a little ticklish. In the month before the coalition intervened in Iraq, Saddam's envoys came back empty-handed from a meeting in Damascus. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (just for once I can use this expression without toppling into cliché) to deduce that the presence of a large force all along Iraq's borders might have had something to do with North Korea's cold feet.

So the "drumbeat" scared off the deal-makers, and Saddam Hussein never did get Rodong missiles, which might have been able to hit targets far away from Iraq. Elsewhere in the Kay report, there is convincing evidence that Iraqi scientists were working on missiles, and missile fuels, with ranges longer than those permitted by the United Nations. So there is an explanation for why the completed and readied material was never "found" by inspectors before or after the invasion: It hadn't been acquired quite yet. Which meant that Saddam could not confront the international community in the way that North Korea has lately been doing, by brandishing weapons that do in fact have deterrent power. As in previous cases—the parts of a nuclear centrifuge found in the yard of Iraqi scientist Mehdi Obeidi, for example—the man in charge of these covert weapons programs was Saddam's son Qusai. I find I can live with the idea that Qusai never got to succeed his father as Kim Jong-il did. Imagine a North Korea, with attitude, on the sea lanes of the Persian Gulf—and with "deniable" but undeniable ties to al-Qaida. That was in our future if action had not been taken.

There were predictions made by the peaceniks, too, that haven't come literally true, or true at all. There has been no refugee exodus, for example, of the kind they promised. No humanitarian meltdown, either. No mass civilian casualties. All of these things would of course come to pass, and right away, if the Iraqi "resistance" succeeded in sabotaging the coalition presence. But I refuse to believe that any antiwar person is so keen on vindication as to wish for anything like that.

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and author of The Long Short War: The Postponed Liberation of Iraq.

Article URL: http://slate.msn.com/id/2091988/

17 posted on 12/08/2003 9:34:51 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Dan Cooper
It doesn't matter. You'll only read about this stuff in tabloids like the Post. The mainstream media will never put this on the front page.

From the article: "Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh told London's Telegraph he was the source of the British government's claim..." It's originally from the London Telegraph, which, happily, is definitely not a tabloid.

18 posted on 12/08/2003 10:16:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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