Stacking the Hunt (canned hunting is more than crass — it's cruel)

New York Times ^ | December 9, 2003 | WAYNE PACELLE

[Bluntpoint]

Dipsville Ohio Petting Zoo opens gates for guided hunts. You to can "harvest" a specimen like Mr. Mortimer Snerd below.

While he did not kill animal with first shot, Ole Mortimer spent the rest of the day tracking his trophy.

Mortimer: "You would be surprised how far a wounded animal can travel in one of them acre pens!

[redgolum]

About a year ago, I was invited to attend a "canned" hunt, no cost to me, through a business contact. I went with some reservations, and will not go again.

Really it is an old farm boy thing. If you already have it caught, why not just chop its head off and toss it in the pot? I understand that this type of hunt is big in Europe, and is gaining in popularity in the US. Personally, I find hunting wild game in the wild a much more enjoyable past time. However this practice SHOULD NOT be banned. For some it is the only way they will get a chance to hunt.

[Kenton]

I saw a film of a black leopard that had been declawed and released from a cage in front of some "good ol' boys" with a dozen dogs. The dogs promptly tore the leopard apart and the owners cheered and stood with one foot on the leopard in victory. Now that is a real bunch of men.

I saw that same film you are talking about, it was on TV a few years back. If I remember correctly, it was a complete setup.

It was filmed by an animal rights group (PETA or USHS) surrepticiously, using "undercover hunters" (animal-rights agents provocateurs) who found some guy running a sleazy exotic game hunting operation in Texas and engineered what they knew would be a very controversial "hunt".

It was really pretty sickening, wasn't it? I mean, I've hunted for boar on game preserves, but I've never seen anything as disgusting as that film.

Even more disturbing is the fact that that leopard was killed so that the "animal rights" people could make the film. It was sacrificed in the name of publicity for PETA.

[Bluntpoint]

Slob hunters should be executed!!!!

[Kenton]

I wish I could have seen the pic. Oh well, rest assured that I execute them every chance I get.

[Squantos]

Hunters ping...........Stay Safe !

[bitterTexas]

Yeah, just because they can buy the gun doesn't mean they can shoot it. I regularly shoot pigs around here with a .308, sometimes across fields, and 150 grain Barnes X bullets work fine. Up close, I use an old .375 that I am fond of, but I have not lost a pig yet at 150-250 yards. I use high quality bullets and I shoot carefully. I regularly see people with huge magnums with scopes on them that you could use to examine the surface of Mars dump 20+ rounds in the general direction of a pig and hit nothing. Two years ago I knew (socially) several great white hunters who took a bunch of magnums out to hunt "trophy pigs". One of them got nibbled on a bit after running out of ammunition and being to fat to climb a tree. He had taken out 60 rounds of .338 Win Mag. Damn. The landowner found the pig by hearing the shreiking (he though that it was his ten year old daughter, not a 6'2" grown man) and driving across fields to get to the woods in a pickup truck, nearly killing himself in the process. He dispatched the pig with a .30-30. The pig had a few flesh wounds. Now I am not a huge fan of the .338 Win Mag (I hate the sudden recoil), but I have never had one suggest that at <20 yards it will not put down game. The chewed-up fat guy was in the hospital for a few days and his legs still look kind of weird. He has since lost a lot of weight and now hunts with me. After this he learned how to shoot. He does admit that it would have been a good idea to learn before he went out after a 450 pound boar.

[Axenolith]

I agree, but the author better watch what he prays for because some number of those canned hunt species may be kept off the endangered or extinct list by the breeding incentive provided by the practice...

[Varmint Al]

Exotic Hunting Ranches provide an excellent place to preserve the gene pools of rare animals that are losing some of their home ranges. Breeding and maintaining these animals for profit will assure their continued existence. I don't hunt these ranches, but do not want others from doing so.

Like Rush says, if you want an animal species to prosper, harvest it for food. Are cows, sheep, and pigs anyway near becoming extinct? 

The New York Times has become nothing more than one of the scandal check-out-stand papers and this stupid article adds to the proof.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
Varmint Al's Hunting Page

 

[Squantos]

if you want an animal species to prosper, harvest it for food. Are cows, sheep, and pigs anyway near becoming extinct?

Bumper Sticker Material !!!

Agree Al....I harvest game for food , not trophy...... (albeit I do have a Jackalope on the wall at work). The only "trophy" I ever kept was a mountain lion that tried to make me her dinner. She's on the wall of my den now.

I do dislike hunting over bait. If one is gonna do such they may as well just get their venison in the mail IMO. The "hunt" is the experience.....not the "wait".

Stay Safe !

[junta]

Most of Nugent's filmed hunts are at high fence operations, he even runs one himself called Sunrize Acres.

[humblegunner]

I've heard of that "canned hunting" crap but never understood it.
The worst cheating I've ever done was to let brer buck climb to the
top of the ridge before I shot him so I wouldn't have to drag him so far uphill!

[Ben Ficklin]

Texas set regulations on the hunting ranches perhaps 10 years ago.

This was done after a film of a particular big cat canned hunt was shown on the local TV stations.

I cannot recall the particulars but somehow the cat ended up seeking refuge underneath the guide's truck. Of course the film showed the hunter on his hands and knees, shooting the cat.

[GladesGuru]

If that cigarette is lit, in due coarse (pun intended), the gas sources will be blasted out of their seats. Methane is flammable, you know.

[Varmint Al]

I do dislike hunting over bait. If one is gonna do such they may as well just get their venison in the mail IMO. The "hunt" is the experience.....not the "wait".

There are many different styles of hunting. I don't like to judge someone's hunting style. Some people like to hunt, but don't have the time or place to hunt. Maybe they just want to go on a "canned" hunt to see if they like hunting. Each to his own.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
Varmint Al's Hunting Page

[editor-surveyor]

"Animal rights?"

Everything but constitutional rights seem to be ok with the socialists. Canned hunts are not my cup of tea, but they are not abuse.

[editor-surveyor]

"But if we do, where does a guy like me go to kill koalas and pandas?"

Same place you go for sex: the back of your closet.

[skinkinthegrass]

Oh!, I agree....I don't want Capitalism killed by a bunch of Pea-brained Marxist chickens.

A Modern Hunting Sport? Man/Spears vs Beast/Horn,Claw

[Squantos]

Not really judging folks by their style and understand that some folks are responsible enough to know their limitations and ask for a guide. Heck I do in regions I have never hunted. But ...........some of these hunts are basicly held in the equal to an urban zoo per se.

Good hunting to ya both..........Stay Safe !

[ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds]

I knew a guy in California who hunts wild Russian boar in the wild (not on a preserve) with just a knife - now that is real sport where the boar has as much chance as the hunter, if not more. Of course you need balls of steel and have to be braver than Tarzan. This guy has a lot of nasty scars as trophies of his hunting experiences.