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Was Jesus a Liberal?
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 9 December 2003 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 12/09/2003 11:54:06 AM PST by presidio9

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1 posted on 12/09/2003 11:54:07 AM PST by presidio9
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Oustanding Post! Thanks!
3 posted on 12/09/2003 11:59:11 AM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy. Hillary is.)
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Jesus did not say "I'm OK, you're OK" or "Do your own thing" or elevate "choice" above all other considerations. He said "Take up your cross and follow me." That's a call for personal responsibility. Nothing could be more alien to the modern liberal.
4 posted on 12/09/2003 12:02:24 PM PST by Argus ((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
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I've had libs try to tell me Jesus was a liberal. When I ask them what characteristics He had or what teachings He espoused that were liberal, they usually can't think of a thing.

If they answer at all it's usually, "He was in favor of helping the poor." My response to that is, "He was in favor of YOU helping the poor, not in favor of you taking money out of other people's wallets to help the poor."

They have no counter argument for that.

5 posted on 12/09/2003 12:06:08 PM PST by MEGoody
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Whenever I hear a leftist make this claim, I ask for the chapter and verse wherein He espouses the coerced redistribution of wealth. Not surprisingly, I receive a lot of ad hominem slurs but never an answer.
6 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:14 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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read later
7 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:26 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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Sometimes they try to tell me he opposed the death penalty, even though he willing gave himself up to be executed.
8 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:57 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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He told the woman at the well to " go and sin no more".

They would have a fit over that too!

They would tell Jesus not to judge!

9 posted on 12/09/2003 12:09:25 PM PST by sausageseller
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To: presidio9
This is as well said as any I have ever read on this subject.
10 posted on 12/09/2003 12:10:33 PM PST by chesley
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That's specifically why some people don't like Jesus, the don't want to believe that God will judge them.
11 posted on 12/09/2003 12:11:06 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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He would be neither Conservative or Liberal.
12 posted on 12/09/2003 12:12:45 PM PST by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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"He was in favor of YOU helping the poor, not in favor of you taking money out of other people's wallets to help the poor."

Exactly!

13 posted on 12/09/2003 12:13:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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Whenever I hear a leftist make this claim, I ask for the chapter and verse wherein He espouses the coerced redistribution of wealth. Not surprisingly, I receive a lot of ad hominem slurs but never an answer.

That's all you have to do with a lib, as them to prove it or cite sources. Usually they can't come up with anything on their own, which is why they need their leaders to come up with talking points they reapeat ad nauseum.

How many times have liberal friends told you "Bush is an idiot?" It has happened to me several times, to which I respond by asking, "Well what do you mean?"

Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, there will be no good answer to my question and the subject is dropped. Pretty good entertainment if you ask me. All you need to do is ask them to prove their own statements and watch the bumbling commence.

14 posted on 12/09/2003 12:14:13 PM PST by SaveTheChief
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Usually, the best they can come up with is GWB's sometimes fractured speech, which is not so much evidence of his idiocy as it is of their smarmy elitism.
15 posted on 12/09/2003 12:19:31 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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I have a rather unique take on "Judge not lest ye be judged." I want to be judged. And I want to be judged the way Christ, as God's representative, judges...with love, correction, and care. Christ never judged people; that is, He never condemned their souls as without worth. If anything, He judged us all as being worth the supreme sacrifice...His own life in exchange for ours. But everyday Christ judged the sin that men do, and condemned it. (Ask the moneylenders who had the imprint of His sandel on their rumps as they were pitched out of the Temple for making something holy into nothing more than a shopping mall.)

As Christians, (that is, "Little Christs") we should be judging; we should be judging the deeds of men, calling evil evil and good good. And we should do it lovingly, as course correction, the way God through Christ judges us.

16 posted on 12/09/2003 12:24:41 PM PST by 50sDad ("You used ALL THE GLUE on PURPOSE! It's a MAJOR AWARD!")
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That is a very good observation. The good side of President Bush's speech pattern is that he is usually to the point and there is no room to misinterpret what he says. If you read some of his speeches over the past three years, a few of them are good enough to rank among the best ever, by any president.
17 posted on 12/09/2003 12:25:33 PM PST by SaveTheChief
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That's all you have to do with a lib, as them to prove it or cite sources. Usually they can't come up with anything on their own, which is why they need their leaders to come up with talking points they reapeat ad nauseum.

You gotta love this irony...I have been accused by many of being effectivly a "Rush-Bot" by liberals, as if I had no thoughts of my own, and had to be spoonfed ideas from him. Felgercarb...he happens to mirror my own ideas, and he has a bazillion dollars to spend all day long doing political research for me. And now, in this Internet age, more and more the Left is revealed to be exactly what they accuse us of...being mind-numbed robots with no logical arguements of their own. You gotta laugh.

18 posted on 12/09/2003 12:27:47 PM PST by 50sDad ("You used ALL THE GLUE on PURPOSE! It's a MAJOR AWARD!")
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I know this isn't Biblical, necessarily, but I think of Jesus as interceding on my behalf, not only because of his love for me, but also because he was human. And I imagine him speaking to his father, the Lord, and saying, "Well, Dad, you see she meant well, and she did apologize and she is trying harder and she does seek your forgiveness..." etc.

This is just a mental image I have, and I know it is not found in the Bible.
19 posted on 12/09/2003 12:40:12 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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It's spooky that you posted this today, because just yesterday I got into an argument with a fairly agnostic friend of mine who said that Jesus would have wanted us to "turn the other cheek" and not attack Iraq.
20 posted on 12/09/2003 12:40:42 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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