[UNGN]

This was almost a Disaster. Imagine if it was a commercial plane full of troops coming home on leave.

[r9etb]

Primary flight controls become inoperative on the A300B4 with total loss of hydraulic pressure, because there is no manual reversion.

Oops. What kind of French dough-head designs a zero-fault tolerant control system?

IIRC, after the Iowa landing, engines-only landings of that sort became a standard training scenario for American airline pilots. I'm wondering if the DHL guys had had some training, too -- the article isn't quite clear on it.

[TheRightResponse]

IMAGINE if it was Hillary's plane back to the states after her "mission".

[The_Victor]

According to one aviation source familiar with the incident in Baghdad, the incredible feat of airmanship is explained partly by a safety seminar the DHL/European Air Transport (EAT) captain attended in Brussels earlier this year. In a stroke of luck, one of the speakers was retired Capt. Al Haynes. In 1989, Haynes commanded a United Airlines DC-10 in which all the hydraulics had been lost due to a center engine rotor burst in cruise. Using engine thrust alone, the United crew was able to crash-land the crippled aircraft at the Sioux City, Iowa, airport, and the majority of the passengers survived.

The sign of a serious hero. Capt. Al Haynes' actions are saving lives long after the actual heroic event.

[Thud]

ping

[Yossarian]

A Paris Match magazine freelance photographer was with the attackers and shot pictures of the missile launch and strike, which are in the Nov. 27 issue.

F the French.

[T.Smith]

A Paris Match magazine freelance photographer was with the attackers and shot pictures of the missile launch and strike, which are in the Nov. 27 issue.

Have they set a date for this guy's execution yet?

[Ben Hecks]

I'm not making light of the incident but it is interesting that a German-owned aircraft built by the French was brought down by a Russian missile.

[bert]

A tight pucker article......

[csvset]

phugoid oscillations

I had to look that up.

A Paris Match magazine freelance photographer was with the attackers and shot pictures of the missile launch and strike, which are in the Nov. 27 issue.

Ah, French journalism at it's finest, aiding and abetting.

[RightOnline]

I once landed a KC-135 (modified 707; air refueler) rudder only; NO ailerons....and in a West Texas crosswind. Thought THAT was somethin'......but this is unreal. Kudos to the crew.