Posted on 12/10/2003 8:59:00 PM PST by BobbyK
He has a Republican Congress now. What is he doing with it? He's expanding the government at a rate that FDR would be proud of!
So -- do you want to "cut off your nose to spite your face" or do you really want to have conservative reforms.
I'd like the conservative reforms, but voting for GWB seems to not be the way to get them.
So if the Republicans destroy the country it's acceptable to you?
I submit you as Exhibit A of your own quote. You keep voting for Republicans expecting that THIS time they'll actually rein in the federal leviathan.
If you continue to vote for politicians who do unacceptable things, then what leverage do you have over them to make them do right? If a Republican can scare you into voting for him or her out of simple fear of the Democrat, then that Republican may act in any manner he or she sees fit, and you will walk to the polls and cheerfully cast your ballot for the lesser of two evils.
Who doesn't understand? I submit it is you.
I'll take Reagan's "75-80%" anytime. 3/4 of a glass full ain't bad. And if we had a glass filled to the rim, we'd have nowhere to go but down. Spills can be messy.
I liken a second term for President Bush to a team having a chance to win a championship, after a solid rebuilding season. More experience, good bench strength, and some solid recruits.
Some want to fire the coach. He's not winning all the games now. He's not calling all the right plays. If only we could hire a coach who'd do it exactly like we would.
Those folks could start a new team, and call themselves The Utopians, I guess:-).
Sure, allow the Dems to win EVERY election, from now until the SECOND COMING, and what good will THAT do?
By NOT voting to keep GOPers in office, no matter how bad, you get something far worse. Half a loaf is better than none plus you owe three loaves. No one, NOT A SINGLE CANDIDATE/PARTY, " learns a lesson ", especially NOT the " lesson the UNAPPEASEABLES imagine they're sending, when either bounced from office or not elected.
Tell me, just WHAT " lesson " did the GOP " learn ", when Clinton won in '92? It certainly was NOT the one the UNAPPEASEABLES thought that they were sending, when they refused to help re-elect Bush 41.
Your ignorance is overwhelming.
Remember the Contract With America? It was a list of very conservative ideals outlined in great detail which the Republicans ran on in 1994. It was in direct response to the miserable failure of the Bush administration from '88-'92 which culminated in his loss to Clinton, a loss that came to be because Bush did not govern as a conservative, and enough honest-to-goodness conservatives withheld their votes as a consequence. The GOP learned its lesson, the CWA was born, and they stomped the Democrats in the '94 elections.
The lesson works, but it requires the sort of intestinal fortitude not found in people like you.
What ideals does Bush espouse that cause you to support him?
It's a simple question that I hope you'll answer.
Bush 41 lost because enough " conservatives " decided to take as whole clothe, the propaganda heaped upon Bush 41, held it against him, that he dared to try to work with the Dems and then was used and abused by them, the never ending, mindless rantings about the " READ MY LIPS " thing, the abjectly gullible believing the snakeoil, that Perot was spooning out and, as is often the case, enough people deciding that 12 years of one party having the White House was too much. Historically, it is exceedingly RARE, for a V.P. to win the presidential election and then winning re-election.
Bush 41's loss and Clinton's unConstitutional tax hike, made enough people angry, so that they took the House away from the Dems. Yes, the CONTRACT WITH AMERICA helped, but a fat lot of good that did, when all is said and done. And as far as " teaching the GOP a lesson ", the " lesson " you imagine it taught, wasn't really taught at all and your saying so, doesn't make it a fact. ;^)
I support him in the war on terror. Our position in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lowering taxes. Then there is the fact that he is the best option by far - no other alternative that comes close.
You may consider these reasons lame and even find a basis to attack them. That would be your privilege, my privilege is that I get to vote in the next election and I am excited about it.
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Personally, I hate the fractionalization and the name calling over neo/paleo. It's just a divide and conquer ploy, a way of making snide, smarmy, anti-Semitic remarks for some, and does NO good whatsoever, to OUR cause. What cause is that ? Getting as many Dems out of elected office, as is humanly possible.
I am sick and tired of hearing neanderthals like your self spewing hate and disrespect for our truely honorable Commander in Chief.
The TRUTH is, you people have slithered so far to the Right, you have wound up on the other side!
If you can't be a part of this forum and support the GOP, then get the he// out of here and start your own group of pathetic, grovelling, sniveling, carping defeatists.
YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT BELONG HERE! DO YOU GET IT MAGGOT?
Let me give you a little advice. It's the best kind, because it comes from a fat, dead, alcoholic comedian.
I never vote for anyone; I always vote against.
W. C. Fields
You can fool yourself into thinking that you're always supporting a candidate, but in 99%+ of the cases, you're simply picking the guy who's not as bad as the other.
Clearly, our system sucks. Its faults are summed up best in the words of a fat, dead, alcoholic politician.
It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Sir Winston Churchill
So, if you have a better idea that doesn't involve letting the bad guys win easily while we fall on our swords and declare moral victory, I'm all ears. If not, I'll continue to uphold the pillars of dead, fat, alcoholic wisdom.
So, how do you feel about the C-in-C violating his oath of office? What do you, as a person who swore to uphold the Constitution, think about a person who takes an oath similar to the one you and I both did and then turns his back on it?
Last time I checked, Jim Robinson decided who stays and who goes. Your invitation to leave will go unheeded. This isn't an "I Love the GOP Forum", at least not last time I checked.
And if you'll do some reading, I am not "spewing hate and disrespect". I am questioning why a person who swore to uphold the Constitution is doing the exact opposite, and why people like you, who should revere that Constitution over a person, are giving him a free pass on it.
And you're a coward and a disgrace to the uniform for letting it go unchallenged. I belong here much more than you do, because unlike you I refuse to roll over and play dead for the masters at the GOP.
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