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To: BobbyK
"Rather than fantasize about an ideal future, conservatives need to think about how things can, and will, get devastatingly worse, should Bush lose. "

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Conservatives and libertarians, anyone listening?

Remember whom your votes against GHW Bush got us: 8 painful years of Clinton.

Do we want 8 years of Dean?

Without exaggeration, the very existence of our country and way of life may be at stake.

5 posted on 12/10/2003 9:06:06 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Remember whom your votes against GHW Bush got us: 8 painful years of Clinton

The SPIN stops here: It wasn't 'our votes' that got us 8 painful years of Clinton, it was GHW's failure to uphold Republican values.
8 posted on 12/10/2003 9:09:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: FairOpinion
Apparently the perpetual whiners, AKA 2%rs, haven't had much to complain about for the past few months, but they're sure making up for it today with the SCOTUS decision to disregard the constitution and uphold most of CFR. Now they're gonna search for the ever illusive "True Conservative" and write in whatever this unelectable phantom's name is, and that will show us, just look at the lesson they taught us in 1992 and 1996!!!! Bill Clinton will never forget them and neither will I
18 posted on 12/10/2003 9:25:48 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: FairOpinion
As a libertarian, I voted for Harry Browne in 2000. And I still believe in its ideals.

But as somone once said, "Perfection is the enemy of the good." In my view, inspite of things like the steel tarriff and the new Medicare Bill, Bush is more likely to follow the libertarian ideals than any of the Democrats. After all, Ron Paul (R-TX) is a past Libertarian Presidential candidate. And in light of what happened on 9/11, I cannot take the chance that my vote for the Libertarian candidate in 2004 will help a Democrat get into office.

So, Bush will get my vote instead.
32 posted on 12/10/2003 9:57:15 PM PST by Dave Olson
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To: FairOpinion
I'll never vote for any of the Marxist 'Rat crowd, no chance of that.

However, I'll be G-ddamned if I'll vote again for anyone, Mr. Bush included, who expands gov't shamelessly, entitlements, spending, ''education funding'' (what a tragic joke), all of the above and worse.

And who does NOTHING, not one thing, to protect our borders, to define the difference between citizenship and parisitism, and/or who refuses -- contrary to the oath of office -- to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

If the president, any president, utterly abandons his oath (never mind the Regress, who haven't had a clue about their respective oath of office for upwards of 30 years), there is no more Republic -- there only remains the doctrine of getwhatchacanwhileyacan, otherwise known as savagery.

If there is no longer recognised and admired either the responsibility of citizenship or the benefits accruing from legitimate citizenship, if the random filth from other nations, who have no intention whatever of even considering American ideals, never mind embracing them, need not even obey the laws of the United States in order to have the taxpayers subsidise them, if our protestations against the political class are to be time-limited according to the whim of those in office, as according to the Supreme Court ruling today...there is little point and enormous risk in continuing to believe that ''America'' is any longer a special nation, ''the last, best hope of mankind''.

And now, which course can we who believe in the Constitution take? Revolt, or leave. If there is a third choice, I cannot name it. Sit passively like sheep and wait for further confiscation of our rights and our property, the better for the politicians to buy votes from the parasites and the non-producers? That option is NOT for me.

Do as your conscience guides, and FReegards to all except the site pests, the one-worlders, and the assorted socialists here.

52 posted on 12/10/2003 10:27:47 PM PST by SAJ
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To: FairOpinion
Remember whom your votes against GHW Bush got us: 8 painful years of Clinton.

Exactly....and the Necro-Conservative death N wish is still alive and well.

59 posted on 12/10/2003 10:31:52 PM PST by Consort
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To: FairOpinion
" Do we want 8 years of Dean?

Without exaggeration, the very existence of our country and way of life may be at stake "

No "may " about it. Will be at stake is more like it.I don't scare easily,but, the thought of another Democrat in the Oval Office,makes me fear for the future of our country.
109 posted on 12/10/2003 11:35:40 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: FairOpinion
I'm almost as thankful for Ralph Nader as Bill Clinton is for Ross Perot. When I think of how close we came to having a President Gore, I shutter and cringe.

I'll take Reagan's "75-80%" anytime. 3/4 of a glass full ain't bad. And if we had a glass filled to the rim, we'd have nowhere to go but down. Spills can be messy.

I liken a second term for President Bush to a team having a chance to win a championship, after a solid rebuilding season. More experience, good bench strength, and some solid recruits.

Some want to fire the coach. He's not winning all the games now. He's not calling all the right plays. If only we could hire a coach who'd do it exactly like we would.

Those folks could start a new team, and call themselves The Utopians, I guess:-).

188 posted on 12/11/2003 8:02:29 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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