[nopardons]

Good... LEAVE ! What you'll then find out, is that no other place will satify you either; NONE.

From the very beginnings of this nation, the government has refrained from doing what you and others imagine they should have done and done what you rail against governments and presidents doing. We, all of us, can only vote for those who will do the least TO us and ours and do a bit of what we want done. That's REALITY , not childish wistfullness; which is what you engage in.

And revolt is completely and utterly just a daydream of those who refuse to comprehend exactly what would happen here, yes, even here, should that be attempted. If no one led a revolt during the 8 years of the Clinton horde, it just is NOT going to happen...unless something REALLY horrendous happens, such as being overtaken by the now faltering, faded, almost gone Taliban/OBL's goons.

[Fledermaus]

SAJ and I were fighting Clinton hard those eight years WELL BEFORE FRepublic even existed in other forums.

[SAJ]

Actually, in my case, having to date lived in 11 other nations at various times, your view is not terribly accurate.

Nations, or governments, do not exist to ''satisfy'' me or anyone else. They exist TO exist, and generally to expand their power over time.

An honest man or woman requires nothing from government, except that it obey its stated rules. Granted that no government anywhere does so, in a scrupulous fashion, some governments do so FAR more reliably than others. Until the past 25 years or so, the USA was among the top 3 or 4 nations who DID obey their own rules to a **greater** extent.

Whether you or I like it or not, the USA is now NOT obeying its own rules for governance, i.e. the Constitution (which, btw, I can cite you chapter and verse right through, and -- a no-brainer -- cite any number of very specific examples of the US gov't violating its own rules, almost cheerfully, even).

At bottom, your complaint against me is that I don't (any longer) like a politician that you prefer.

Doubtless, you'll be very happy with the next anti-Constitutional outrage that is about to occur, specifically, the taxation of Internet transactions. Perhaps you might consider reading Article I, Section IX if you happen to hold the view that such taxation is somehow legitimate.

Ignoring your vitriol, may I -- VERY sincerely -- wish you the best of the Christmas season, and of the New Year to come!