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To: wizardoz
" . . . the idea to merge both countries' Social Security systems was pushed late last year by Mexican President Vincente Fox as payback from President George W. Bush for failing to secure major new immigration reforms beneficial to Mexico City.

Payback, my eye! Just what in the Sam heck to we owe El Presidente Fox? Those who contribute to SS and are hear legally may deserve access to a Totalization Agreement (Finland, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Greece and a number of countries have such treaties in place already.) Those that are here illegally deserve nada.

If anything is to be paid to illegals, it should only be after the costs they imposed on U.S. taxpayers (higher unemployment, depressed wages, ER fees, crime, etc.) are deducted. They they would owe us.

6 posted on 12/11/2003 3:57:26 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman
may deserve access to a Totalization Agreement

I have a feeling if they worked here legally, did every thing legally they already get Medicare and Social Security checks when they retire. I know they get Medicare ---- there are many living in Mexico who come over with Medicare numbers ---- because they worked and retired here.

29 posted on 12/11/2003 4:51:54 PM PST by FITZ
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