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To: jonathanleebrown
As a historian, I can tell you that a socialist and a communist, and a nazi are all of the same things:
They have different doctrines, but they all follow the same patterns-Hope this helps a little bit
Democracy is the only alternative!


If you want me to get into this, feel free to Freep mail me! I will more than happy to explain it to you!

And remember from grade school: a silly question is a question that is not asked!
61 posted on 12/13/2003 12:31:39 PM PST by Mich0127
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To: Mich0127
Doubtful if he is new to the political game in general. He is, however, extremely new to Free Republic. ;o)
76 posted on 12/13/2003 2:04:29 PM PST by arasina (What will YOU do when Howard Dean or Hillary Clinton is president?)
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To: Mich0127
So you are saying that, though they believe in different ideals or strive to achieve different goals, they ended up the same way? It is interesting to ponder what factors could influence the ideologies to result in similar outcomes. Furthermore, could those same factors influence us with our version of democracy, or any form of government? I am inclined to believe that it is the human element, human nature, that has the greatest potential to be so destructive to any organization of man.

Here's my concern about our situation: We are fighting each other. Not just among Reps but among Americans; Rep, Dem and all. We don't seem to view ourselves as a union but as adversaries. And that is really scary. Why is that? Why is everybody mad? I know some people are mad because they feel like they are not represented as they would like to be. The fact remains that Bush did not win a majority of the vote. (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results/index.president.html) And yet he is in office. That, to me, indicates that our system is flawed. A two party system, as we have, makes change very difficult. (I call it "two party" here based on the election dynamics, elections don't work with more than two candidates. Or rather have the potential to fail.)

We can certainly agree that one man cannot rule a country alone. The president surrounds himself with many of the brightest people (not necessarily in the country, but in his party at least.) Perhaps we need a way to map election result to cabinet positions or better yet have a committee rule, representative of the actual vote numbers. Of course this wouldn't work in the real world. (right?) I am sure the thought is coming to mind right now, "partisan squabbling would increase more than exponentially!" Indeed that is likely; the human factor again.

Well now that my rambling is tiring even my own will connect with the intelligent inhabitants of this site, I guess I should come to a point: that no matter who wins any election, our point of view has to change, we need to stop fighting each other, and work on peaceful change. I will qualify this by point out that my analysis of the situation is not the most well informed and I lack much insight that I am sure many of you have. (Shall we say that I am still trying to forge my political identity?) So criticism and corrections are more than welcome. Also if there is a more appropriate place for this discussion I will gladly move. However I would like to keep it open, not limited to emailing.

Thanks!

78 posted on 12/13/2003 2:31:05 PM PST by jonathanleebrown
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To: Mich0127
"As a historian, I can tell you that a socialist and a communist, and a nazi are all of the same things:
They have different doctrines, but they all follow the same patterns-Hope this helps a little bit
Democracy is the only alternative! "

So, it's okay to call Hillary a Commie-Socialist-Nazi?

Cool!
123 posted on 12/13/2003 9:14:21 PM PST by Joy Angela (Hillary's Angry and Unstable...and She's getting ready to blow!!!)
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