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To: Torie



I think it depends on the response to Tom Ridge's trial balloon of last week. BTW, that's the first time a federal official has conceded that there might be as many as 12 million Illegals in the country.

The way I think it will play is "they're here anyway, we need to know who and where they are, for security."


34 posted on 12/15/2003 10:33:29 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Makes sense. It has nothing really to do with the issue of illegals per se, but it does have a nice fuzzy feeling to it.
36 posted on 12/15/2003 10:39:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: Sabertooth
I agree with you that "security" will be the excuse for amnesty.

However, I think we have to scream. "When is the last illegal alien coming???????"

To use "security" as an excuse for amnesty will be an admission by Bush and Homeland Security that they can't and have failed to secure our borders.
37 posted on 12/15/2003 10:45:53 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: Sabertooth; texastoo
First, President Bush is against blanket amnesty. Second, President Bush just expanded the workplace verification bill so that employers like me don't get faked by the forged documents of illegals.

But that's not good enough, is it? If Bush doesn't militarize the borders, then he's with them rather than us to far too many gullible posters around here.

And I'm seldom persuaded by such all-or-nothing positions. Not every President has been against blanket amnesty for illegals. Bush is. Not every President would have extended the verification program. Bush did.

So even on this one issue, Americans could do far worse than to have Bush in office.

President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.
It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.

38 posted on 12/15/2003 10:50:05 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sabertooth
BTW, that's the first time a federal official has conceded that there might be as many as 12 million Illegals in the country.

Ironic?
42 posted on 12/15/2003 10:56:03 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (It's more than a lib/con thing- All 3 branches of govt colluded to limit the 1st amendmenthave been)
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