MORE DETAILS EMERGE ON SADDAM CAPTURE: COALITION ELABORATE EAVESDROPPING AND SADDAM'S BIG MOUTH

Nikkan Gendai (Tokyo) translated to English by Freeper ^ | 15 December 2003 | Nikkan Gendai (translated to English by Freeper)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Yeah, I noticed that with interest, too. You have a good eye.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Stinky little rathole for Saddam Hussein bump! Offensive thumbnail alert!

[No Blue States]

lol

I take that as a rejection, now im deeply saddened. ;o

Seriously, I like you, but not enough for an special invitation to my spiderhole.

ps: thanks for the translation, interesting read.

[Eva]

But Saddam knows that he is going to die no matter what he says. He has no incentive to "sing". I believe that his "singing" is disinformation being put out to try to coerce/cajole the underlings to sing.

Maybe, maybe not. Saddam has a vested interest in dragging this thing out and giving up just enough information to scare France, Germany and Russia into getting involved to protect him from the death penalty. We can look forward to some slight softening in the opposition from "Old Europe" and Russia, but don't look for a complete turnabout. Old Europe has too much to lose if prosecution of Saddam proceeds without international interference.

[richardtavor]

Lucee, you got some 'splainin' to do! (Ricky Ricardo, circa 1953)

[HiJinx]

just enough information to scare France, Germany and Russia into getting involved to protect him from the death penalty

Now that is very good analysis based on past performance, and you may very well have it right.

To those who say he is trying to give out disinformation, I would direct your attention to at least two FR posts that tell of stunning raids, arrests, and killings of Saddam-ites in the last 48 hours. We have the intel and the confirmation; and we are acting on it. It's what MG Odierno (CG, 4th ID) called 'actionable intelligence'.

[Eva]

There is some Harvard law guy on FOX right now, trying to describe the turning over of the Saddam trial to the UN as the necessary step in bringing old Europe into Iraq. He is calling for all concessions from the US and nothing from Old Europe.

[mel]

Thanks so much.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Whew. Thanks. I am relieved.

(Not 'relieved' of course in the sense of Saddam having his long overdue pee break.)

[HiJinx]

We're going to see a lot of that from the terrorist supporters. Just recognize it for what it is...(as you obviously do!)

[Domestic Church]

One of the sons had a mistress from Germany I think.

[Billthedrill]

Many thanks again for the hard work of translation.

Kakkate Koi! Hard to imagine, but Bush must be regarded in Japan as the archetypal American - thoughts and impressions?

[AmericanInTokyo]

You've asked me and here is my take:

He (Bush) is in Japan, IMHO, generally regarded as an effective bully, whom at the end of the day, you have no choice but to fear and to respect.

The press in Japan is just as liberal, in many cases, as in the US. Particularly the publishing houses. Very little positive press on George W. Bush. They basically translate Michael Moore and copy him and his ideas, then going on and trying to be original but they are not.

Here is a special collection of his books, entitled "Stupid Americans" in the Japanese language. It includes his work on Bush, the USA in general, you know, that kind of left wing crap:

[TrueBeliever9]

Men With Hill

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

Saddam was known to the Coalition as a “ladies man”

[AmericanInTokyo]

EMPUKU-YA bump!

[sr4402]

...He has no incentive to "sing". I believe that his "singing" is disinformation being put out to try to coerce/cajole the underlingings to sing

Then why, when captured, did he request to "negotiate"? I think he mentioned some legitamate stuff (that got some of his buddies caught) in the hopes he would be taken seriously. Sure, some of it is disinformation and some of it will be poor memories, but the real haul is when he forgets what he is saying and alludes to something he'd rather not. The more he talks the more he leaks.

When confronted by his leaks, he'll talk some more... probably just to keep from being alone. And so it goes.

Maybe he'll leak about Al-Quida and where Osama is, maybe on WMDs, or, most fun of all, he could tell of the fun times he had with the Democratic Congressman and Senators (like McDermot) who heaped praise on him. LOL!

[aristeides]

The U.S. was greatly assisted by a sophisticated “elint” (electronic eavesdropping) operation involving good cooperation by US, Australian, and British intelligence.

As the terms are normally used in the intelligence community, "SIGINT" (signals intelligence) consists of: (1) "COMINT" (communications intelligence) (voice and other text communications) and (2) "ELINT" (electronic intelligence) (other signals).

Since the story talks about things like intercepted telephone conversations (COMINT), I think he should have used the term "SIGINT", rather than "ELINT".

[gov_bean_ counter]

I would be more inclined to believe that the "singing Saddam" stories are intended to protect those locals and low level Saddamites who may now be cooperating.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Thanks. Looks like they had both sigint and elint, plus of course a good bushel full of humint there on the ground! :-)