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To: CatoRenasci
Malone said that he thought that the father of Sally's children was Peter and Samuel Carr. They were the sons of one of Jefferson's sisters, and they were named by both Jefferson's grandson and his overseer. They must have been telling the truth, right? The grandson even swore he got a confession from either Peter or Samuel himself.

Too bad the DNA excluded both Peter and Samuel Carr! Randolph Jefferson was barely mentioned prior to the DNA test as a possible father. In order to determine the father, you must look to see what Jefferson Y-chromosone holder was there at the time of each Hemings child conception- so far there is only one who was there each time- Thomas Jefferson. That, along with exclusion of the Carr brothers who were the most likely suspects prior to the DNA test, leads me to believe that Jefferson was the father of Sally's children. Of course, no one can ever know the truth.

87 posted on 12/16/2003 1:17:05 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: LWalk18
You're right that Malone focused on Carr (the "nephew" I referred to in my first post). I don't have the Malone handy, but I seem to recall Randoph being mentioned as a possibility. If I remember the 2000 report, it is not the case that TJ was the only Jefferson male who was present when the Hemmings children were conceived. I'll look it up when I get a chance.
99 posted on 12/16/2003 1:33:10 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: LWalk18
As you no doubt know, the DNA tests only excluded the Carrs as Easton Hemmings' father. And Woodson was clearly not fathered by any Jefferson. There were several Jeffersons who were present during the times Easton was concieved. There is also no evidence that Hemmings children all had the same father. The descendents of her other son's line refuse to permit DNA testing.

All in all, case not proven. And still unlikely.

112 posted on 12/16/2003 2:05:13 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: LWalk18
In order to determine the father, you must look to see what Jefferson Y-chromosone holder was there at the time of each Hemings child conception- so far there is only one who was there each time- Thomas Jefferson.

You are making a serious error in logic here. We only have evidence for one of Sally Hemmings children, Eston. We do not know the father of the others, except that a Jefferson did not father Thomas Woodson. Since two of the children had different fathers, how do you conclude that the others had the same father?

118 posted on 12/16/2003 2:20:34 PM PST by centurion316
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