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Dean, Kerry Want Clinton to Broker Mideast Peace
FOX News ^ | Thursday, December 18, 2003 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 12/18/2003 7:05:51 PM PST by anonymous_user

WASHINGTON — Bill Clinton could pose a striking — and promising — contrast to President Bush's efforts if he accepts the mission proposed by two would-be Democratic presidents to pursue Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, say some foreign policy analysts.

Those supporters add that considering the former president for the job helps Democrats John Kerry (search) and Howard Dean send the right message about their visions for peace in the Middle East.

"Clinton would be a formidable negotiator. He has plausibility with both sides in the region, he knows the players and he knows the issues, probably better than any president — probably better than this president," said Will Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute, a Democratic think tank built around Clinton's political philosophies. "It would be hard to pick a better representative of American interests."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; dean; hell; howarddean; johnkerry; kerry; middleeast; peace; snowball
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"Progressive Policy Institute, a Democratic think tank built around Clinton's political philosophies"

Around here, we'd call that called a Septic Tank.

Your comments are welcome.

1 posted on 12/18/2003 7:05:53 PM PST by anonymous_user
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2 posted on 12/18/2003 7:06:06 PM PST by Bob J (www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
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To: anonymous_user
You said it FRiend.
3 posted on 12/18/2003 7:06:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: anonymous_user
Aww Jeeez!
4 posted on 12/18/2003 7:07:30 PM PST by mylife
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To: anonymous_user
Bubba couldn't do it while he was president, what makes anyone think he has improved since he got out of office?
5 posted on 12/18/2003 7:07:55 PM PST by Lucy Lake (Spell check is a great invention, so are turn signals.)
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To: anonymous_user
Dean, Kerry Want Clinton to Broker Mideast Peace

And he was so successful in doing it the last time. [/sarcasm]

6 posted on 12/18/2003 7:08:11 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: anonymous_user
Clinton would be a formidable negotiator

Yeah, right. Last time he tried negotiating we ended up with a whole slew of suicide bombings in the Mid-East.

7 posted on 12/18/2003 7:08:12 PM PST by what's up
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To: mylife
What is this crap "if he accepts"? Plausibility? Is this guy kidding?
8 posted on 12/18/2003 7:08:53 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: anonymous_user
Clinton had eight years to solve that Israeli/Palestinian problem. - Tom
9 posted on 12/18/2003 7:09:45 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: anonymous_user
So these 2 bozos are saying they aren't up to the job but Clinton is?
10 posted on 12/18/2003 7:10:22 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: anonymous_user
The guy failed with eight years of being a "peace broker", now he's a genius?? Such drivel......
11 posted on 12/18/2003 7:12:28 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (The road will go through Foxborough.....)
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To: anonymous_user
I don't care what Clinton's political philosophies are or any one else's for that matter. The only thing that will make the Palis happy is getting the Israelis of the face of the earth.
12 posted on 12/18/2003 7:13:47 PM PST by oyez (Incredible!)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
of = off(sorry)
13 posted on 12/18/2003 7:14:26 PM PST by oyez (Incredible!)
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To: anonymous_user
The last thing the Middle East needs is for Klinton to stick his appliance-bulb honker into their affairs, because somebody is gonna get screwed.
14 posted on 12/18/2003 7:15:21 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Semper Paratus

Ahh can bring us closer. THhaats Raght!

15 posted on 12/18/2003 7:15:28 PM PST by mylife
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To: anonymous_user
Looks like a "Love Connection", Chuck.


16 posted on 12/18/2003 7:16:42 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: anonymous_user
didn't Clinton already try that for 8 years???
17 posted on 12/18/2003 7:17:16 PM PST by GeronL (Saddam is out of the hole and into the quagmire!)
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To: grizzfan; anonymous_user
>>>Bubba couldn't do it while he was president

I'm sorry; but, according to Bill Clinton, he already brought peace to the middle east.

Did all forget about his historic Peace Treaty Middle East Tour, Nov 17,1994

Let his record stand for itself. In the Septic tank, like anonymous said.
18 posted on 12/18/2003 7:17:21 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Bob J
"Shakedown"

That's got to be about da rev.

19 posted on 12/18/2003 7:17:52 PM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
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To: anonymous_user
This is laughable!!!

This sounds more like something that Clinton dreamed up. He called Kerry and Dean and said if you don't want Hillary running this time around, you guys better say you came up with idea yourselves.

20 posted on 12/18/2003 7:17:53 PM PST by YaYa123 (@The Clinton Legacy Quest Continues.com)
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To: Wait4Truth; Publius6961; jimbo123; deadhead; Toespi; texasbluebell; Moonmad27; nicmarlo; Mia T; ...
You just have to see this one!
21 posted on 12/18/2003 7:19:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: anonymous_user
"It's delusional on the part of Kerry and Dean to believe that the success of the American role in the peace process depends on the envoy," he said. "The candidates have to say what their policies are, what it is they stand for. There is a lack of honesty here and an avoidance of addressing the real issues."

I think this concluding paragraph sums it up well.

22 posted on 12/18/2003 7:20:37 PM PST by StriperSniper (Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
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To: anonymous_user
Maybe we don't want bj bubba sticking his nose into foreign affairs,he didnt exactly do inspiring work in that dept. when he was defiling the oval office.
23 posted on 12/18/2003 7:21:01 PM PST by suzyq5558 (Deenie has no claim to national leadership. but he does claim lots of theory conspiracies!)
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To: anonymous_user
Dimwitted DimRATS. He couldn't do it the eight years he was there! If this wasn't so laughable it would be pathetic. They must be tuned in to the media saying they need the soccer moms, or is it the security moms, or the single dumb dimrat women, or..... get Clinton on board and it's sealed up because he exudes such a, what's the word? Oh yeah, STENCH!
24 posted on 12/18/2003 7:21:35 PM PST by mplsconservative (I'm a conservative mom who found Clinton about as attractive as Katie Couric's colonoscopy.)
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To: anonymous_user
Clinton brokered the Barak plan.

Arafat said no.

Nothing more can be done with Clinton.
25 posted on 12/18/2003 7:23:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: anonymous_user
"It would be hard to pick a better representative of American interests."

Maybe another Nobel prize for Arafat?

26 posted on 12/18/2003 7:24:50 PM PST by byteback
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To: mylife
With all due respect, wrong...

This is what I have in common with John Holmes.

27 posted on 12/18/2003 7:25:09 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: anonymous_user
"It would be hard to pick a better representative of American interests."

The slob never had American interests in his mind. It's all about him.

It will take years to undo the harm that he did to America.

28 posted on 12/18/2003 7:26:37 PM PST by LADY J
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To: anonymous_user
Hope he doesn't forget to take Chelsea....remember this?

He(Clinton) recalled that his our daughter (Chelsea) took a course on Islamic history in high school and read large portions of the Koran and came home at night and educated her parents about it

29 posted on 12/18/2003 7:27:03 PM PST by shiva
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To: anonymous_user
Clinton would be a formidable negotiator.

Hell yes. The ongoing war is the fruit of his formidable negotiations.

30 posted on 12/18/2003 7:28:55 PM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu Ha-Cohen, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: anonymous_user
Hopefully he doesnt broker it as good as his last Mid East peace deal or how he brokered Bin Laden to world wide terroristic fame and power.

Cant Clinton just retire please? Wasnt 8 long torturous embarrassing years enough already. Jeez.

He would do better pimping interns for 2 bucks a shot than brokering peace
31 posted on 12/18/2003 7:30:06 PM PST by wadeintothem
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To: anonymous_user
Clearly this is a racist attack and undercutting of Jessie Jackson who everyone knows is the only one who can negotiate a just peace.
32 posted on 12/18/2003 7:35:21 PM PST by Drango ("To Serve Man" ... IT'S A COOKBOOK!)
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To: anonymous_user
Didn't Clinton have Sharon and Arafat over to Camp David where we were shown pictures of a very solemn President trying to get both sides to agree? If I remember correctly Israel gave up (offered) way more than it should have and Yasser turned it down.

Clinton is a figgin idiot!

33 posted on 12/18/2003 7:35:50 PM PST by tagatose
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To: anonymous_user
"Around here, we'd call that called a Septic Tank."

That's a very apt discription of the organization.

It is an indication of how stupid (and morally bankrupt) Ketchup Boy and the Idiot are. Calling Dean an idiot may be giving him too much credit, he is not that smart.
34 posted on 12/18/2003 7:36:28 PM PST by punster
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To: Calpernia
I thought I couldn't feel any sicker today...but this did it. This has been a really revolting day! I don't ever want to have to see clinton giving little hugs to Arafat again. President Bush MUST be re-elected. The stakes are enormous in so many areas!
35 posted on 12/18/2003 7:36:40 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: punster
Also, Clinton did not earn the name, William Judas Clinton, for nothing.
36 posted on 12/18/2003 7:39:11 PM PST by punster
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To: anonymous_user
Oh, well, of course. Since he did such a hellacious good job while he was in office.

What are these people, completely nuts? Given his behavior in office, God knows what he would do as a private citizen.

37 posted on 12/18/2003 8:01:36 PM PST by Adrastus
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To: anonymous_user
After reading that, I am truly trying not to puke.................
38 posted on 12/18/2003 8:09:32 PM PST by SeaDragon
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To: anonymous_user
This is a bad joke, right? Clinton? I'm just positive that he can get the job done...like he did in the bathroom sink.
39 posted on 12/18/2003 8:15:58 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: tagatose
Bill Clinton is among the worst people imaginable to take on this role. He's always been focused on getting everyone's approval. Someone who knew him well (mother?) said if he was in a room where 99 people liked him and one didn;t, he would spend all his energy to get that one person to like him.

A negotiator cannot function with such a weakness. You need to be able to walk away. One example: President Reagan refused to surrender ballistic missile defense in negotiations with Gorbachev. It meant walking away with no deal from a summit. It meant disappointing the entire kumbaya world who had their hearts set on another "feel good" moment of capitulation.

Not sure the Gipper knew it at the time, but when he refused to cave Gorbachev realized the Soviet Union could never win the cold war. He figured out the race was bankrupting them and they had lost.

Could you ever in your wildest imagination picture Clinton standing firm in such a situation? He could never accept the notion that people would be mad at him even if he did what was right. He signed treaties that the Senate would never ratify (ICC, Kyoto), just to be loved - leaving Congress to be the bad cop.

Selecting him shows how spineless these candidates are. Either that or Hillary has REALLY good FBI files stuff on them.

40 posted on 12/18/2003 8:23:09 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: anonymous_user
Ah come on, folks. Bill Clinton brought peace to the Middle East - several times. In fact, he did it about once a year -that is, if you define "peace" as a photo of Clinton standing between Yasser and the Israeli Prime Minister of the moment.

Clinton and the Dems are delusional if they believe that "Peace in the Middle East" is part of Bill's imaginary legacy or expertise.
41 posted on 12/18/2003 8:46:22 PM PST by Spotsy
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To: anonymous_user
Why not Jimmuh Carter?

He was also a disgraced president who would probably pimp his wife (he has already pimped his country) if it meant a decent legacy. Just look at the way he managed to obtain the Nobel. (Could not stand the drooling idiot receiving the Prize - "Look Rosalin, I may have been a putz as Pres but I got the Nobel!")

Nah, Jimmuh's too addled and Bill has pizzaz.

But he will be using the same playbook.

He'll do anything, no matter what the ultimate cost to his country, to get historians to write him a legacy that doesn't make him look the sociopathic dog he is.

If this is the best Kerry and Dean can offer us, God help us all.
42 posted on 12/18/2003 9:38:54 PM PST by auntdot
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To: anonymous_user; Calpernia
When I heard this insane notion coming from pander Dean's mouth, I shuddered and thought "what a stupid and dangerous jerk."

The reaction was virtually identical to the one I had upon witnessing a strategically and psychologically equivalent Dean moment -- one of his first comments as presidential candidate: (,,,and I paraphrase here) "Hillary would make a good president... some day."

WASHINGTON -- Two Norwegian public-relations executives and one member of the Norwegian Parliament say they were contacted by the White House to help campaign for President Clinton to receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize for his work in trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

Clinton Lobbies for Nobel Prize: What a Punk
White House Lobbied For Clinton Nobel Peace Prize
Updated Friday, October 13, 2000
By Rita Cosby
 

 

There's been speculation in the last few months that Clinton was pursuing a Mideast peace accord in an effort to win the prize and secure his legacy as president.

AIDES PUSH CLINTON FOR THE NOBEL

 

 
At the time, clinton observed: "I made more progress in the Middle East than I did between Socks and Buddy." Retrospectively, it is clear that clinton's characterization was not correct.

Mia T, Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers

 

ADDENDUM 12.13.03:

As for pathologic self-interest, check out Richard Miniter's C-SPAN interview; the interview is contained in my latest virtual hillary movie (below), hillary talks:ON TERROR; it is absolutely devastating for the clintons. Miniter lays out in sickening detail the clintons' monumental failure to protect America.

Note in particular Madeleine Albright's shocking reason given at the time of the USS Cole attack why the clinton administration should not respond militarily. It tell us everything we need to know about the clintons. It tell us why clinton redux is an absolutely suicidal notion.

Notwithstanding their cowardice, corruption, perfidy and essential stupidity, the clintons, according to Albright, made their decision not to go after the terrorists primarily to enhance their own legacy and power. The clintons calculated that such inaction would MAXIMIZE THEIR CHANCES TO RECEIVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. No matter that that inaction would also maximize the terrorists' power, maximize America's danger.

Mia T, The Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent2

Mia T, The Nobel as clinton Pavlovian stimulus--a timeline
(In this season of gift horses and attack dogs, let us not forget the good clinton dog, Buddy...)

 
hillary talks:ON TERROR
(reinstalling the clintons in the White House has one advantage over suicide)


(viewing movie requires Flash Player 6, available HERE)

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com


COMING APART:
What clinton was REALLY saying. . . and why. . . when he bashed Bush in Canada
(Involves Nobel--play flash movie)

flash movie


"I view Hillary Clinton as a great danger to Jews if she is elected."

former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir
Jewish Press, July 2000




I... underestimated the propensity of my people for narrow-mindedness and self-destruction (the Jewish vote for Mrs. Clinton was about 70%)....

Some anti-Semitism is irrational, founded in ignorance, as in Hillary's case....

But other forms of anti-Semitism can be earned, giving folks legitimate grievances against a people because they do crazy things like EXTEND HILLARY CLINTON'S POLITICAL LIFE!

This is not to cast the entire blame on Jewish New Yorkers; they alone couldn't have elected her. In my initial optimism, I equally underestimated the urban pseudo-intellectual's high-mindedness, as well as the Everyman's yearning for celebrity in his midst.

Julia Gorin, Getting used to Hillary
Jewish World Review
Nov. 27, 2000 / 29 Mar-Cheshvan, 5761

clintonism and the theology of contempt
Mia T, November 2000 (sometime before the-first-Tuesday-after-the-first-Monday)


43 posted on 12/19/2003 12:11:02 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: anonymous_user
Bubba wants to rule the world.

He wants to get the UN Prez position and redefine its power/control structure.
44 posted on 12/19/2003 12:25:13 AM PST by Louisiana
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To: Dilbert56
President Reagan refused to surrender ballistic missile defense in negotiations with Gorbachev.

At one point in their talks didn't Reagan put all the missiles on the table? But it was Gorby who blinked and said no? The treaty (missile reduction) that emerged went only as far as Gorby let it. Now, I'm not saying anything negative about Reagan because maybe it was a negotiating tactic to get the Russians to go farther than they wanted. I think clarity is always a good thing.

45 posted on 12/19/2003 6:16:41 AM PST by tagatose
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To: tagatose
Yes - you're right. President Reagan did propose scrapping the missiles. He would not yield on the defensive systems just being conceived at the time. Most people pictured them as space-based lasers. In the 1984 debates, Mondale was telling us Reagan would put a "hair-trigger" on these weapons in space. Reagan replied that he never said the weapons would be in outer space, he was just asking scientists to study the problem. He could have asked Mondull how a defensive weapon could start a war. Would it shoot down missiles before they were launched?
46 posted on 12/19/2003 6:23:01 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: anonymous_user
Gee, and here I thought Howie was supposed to be snubbing Bubba...
47 posted on 12/19/2003 6:24:59 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: anonymous_user
To: Will Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute

STFU

48 posted on 12/19/2003 6:25:09 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: anonymous_user
Send Clinton so nothing gets done and Bill gets laid.
49 posted on 12/19/2003 6:29:49 AM PST by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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Yes, yes, Dean and Kerry, but what does Wesley "Charlie McCarthy" Clark say? Oh, that's right - whatever Bill "Edgar Bergen" Clinton tells him to say ...

THE HAGUE -- Friday – Former NATO commander Wesley Clark was granted unprecedented privileges during his testimony at the war crimes trial of Slobodan Milosevic, including permission to contact former US president Bill Clinton, B92 reports. Clark testified on Monday and Tuesday, though transcripts were only released yesterday after being looked over by the US government.

“The oddest thing of all was that he was allowed during his testimony to stand up and leave his bench, make a telephone call, or something else,” Belgrade journalist Ljiljana Smajlovic told B92.

“The other unusual thing is that Clark was allowed to contact Bill Clinton during the testimony, to ask him to send a letter or fax supporting his claims. He was allowed to read out Clinton’s fax despite the fact Judge May always warns witnesses that during the break they are not allowed to talk to anyone.”

Clark, who is running for US president, arrived at The Hague with an army of aides, while the tribunal website carried the telephone numbers of his public relations experts. source.

50 posted on 12/19/2003 6:31:44 AM PST by mountaineer
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