COURT: RIAA CAN'T HAVE NAMES OF DOWNLOADERS

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[rit]

Federal appeals court on Friday rejected efforts by recording industry to compel nation's Internet providers to identify subscribers accused of illegally distributing music online.

[honeygrl]

Coupling isn't music. It's a TV show on BBC. Does the RIAA control TV shows on BBC too?

[honeygrl]

The RIAA gets a cut from CDRs too.

[antiRepublicrat]

RIAA should be dismantled and an industry group with vision should be formed.

Quite the opposite, they're even now lobbying Congress for antitrust exemptions after the Napster judge seemed to like suggestions that the RIAA was violating antitrust laws. If they get that, there's no stopping them.

[AntiGuv]

Actually, all downloaders are criminals, per copyright law.

This is false on its face. Only downloading copywrited material is criminalized.

[jjm2111]

"I wouldn't say you are in the minority amongst conservatives, maybe amongst libertarians who think they should have the liberty to steal music online.

What, you just automatically agree w/ the RIAA's interpretation of the fair use rule?

[Smogger]

I am not a thief...

I bet you consider J.Rob a thief when he allows posters to reproduce articles on his website for discussion, no? So who did you side with when The Washington Post, LA Times, and MSNBC filed suit against this website?

[antiRepublicrat]

I then went to a pawn shop and bought Toy Story for 5 bucks.

Next step for the MPAA: Kill the secondary market through licensing and technological controls. Don't think the failed DIVX was was the last we've heard of that.

[honeygrl]

"Actually, all downloaders are criminals, per copyright law"

So everyone who has a song out there automatically copyrights it? A friend of mine made a track of his garage band playing a song. I downloaded it. So I am automatically a criminal? Even though I had been asked by him to download it and listen to it? If you think that is illegal, tell me exactly why.

[LibWhacker]

I'm generally against theft. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RIAA IS SUPPORTING! Price gouging is a form of theft. I won't be crying in my beer over this decision.

[honeygrl]

Thumbs up to you for appreciating your audience for enjoying your work.

[antiRepublicrat]

And they claim music sales are down.

I believe they are right. There was an analysis on the web a while ago showing that the number of titles released is also way down. Hmmmm, coincidence?

[rastus macgill]

Its copyright infringement-a civil matter.
Not theft-a criminal law violation.
This is fact not a matter of opinion no matter who/or how many times you hear "theft!" re music uploading/downloading.

[John Robertson]

No, it does not make me a thief. Because copying and pasting on boards is widely accepted on the net. I did think about it, and I think you're being incredibly overdramatic.

[honeygrl]

I just read today that when searching google, there are more hits regarding hating Britney Spears than hating Saddam Hussein. (2000 for Spears, 750 for Hussein)

[John Robertson]

Per US copyright law, all creations are protected under common law copyright at the moment of creation. This protection stands for a number of years even if formal copyright is not applied for. So yeah, to answer your question, I'm right.

[honeygrl]

I honestly thing that copyright infringement should only apply to people making profit from the copyrighted work. If you aren't reselling the copyrighted product, it should be considered fair use. That would be simple enough for anyone to understand and I think it would be fair.

[Grit]

Coupling isn't music. It's a TV show on BBC. Does the RIAA control TV shows on BBC too?

Oops. Of course not. The BBC would be the rights holder then.

[LisaMalia]

No, it does not make me a thief. Because copying and pasting on boards is widely accepted on the net. I did think about it, and I think you're being incredibly overdramatic.

And I think you're being incredibly condescending. "Widely accepted"? So that makes it OK? Hmmmmmm, interesting.

[rastus macgill]

Copyright violation is a matter of civil-not criminal-law.
That means downloaders aren't thieves but you are a dumbass.

[antiRepublicrat]

Recording a copyrighted television show and keeping it on tape or DVD is fair use

Remember they tried to stop even that. We have only Sony and Mr. Rodgers to thank for this aspect of fair use.