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Wives hire other women to test 'cheating' men
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 21, 2003

Posted on 12/21/2003 2:12:25 AM PST by nickcarraway

More spouses paying 'honey-trap girls' to gauge husbands' fidelity

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Suspicious wives are increasingly hiring so-called "honey-trap girls" to purposely come on to their husbands to test their commitments to their marriages.

According to a report in the Melbourne Herald Sun, women are paying licensed investigators to flirt with their husbands to see how they will react.

"It's a very rewarding job. I love it," Amber confessed to the paper. She had just spent time with a client's husband in a bar. The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over.

"I never let them kiss me, and it's not entrapment because I never ask them for anything," she points out. Entrapment, where the woman initiates contact with the man, is illegal in the area Amber plies her trade.

The woman explained she "smiled in a flirtatious way" when the man first entered the bar.

According to the report, clients are paying thousands of dollars for such fidelity checks. In Europe, the Australian paper said, a company called The Honey Trap is advertising for attractive recruits.

Don Doolan, president of the Association of Investigators and Security Professionals, told the Herald Sun demand for such services is booming in Australia.

"These techniques have always been used, but in the past 10 years there has probably been a five-fold increase," he said.

The process involves getting the attention of the "target" and then waiting for him to make the first move. Doolan says that often happens in a matter of minutes.

"Most blokes think below their belly button," Doolan told the paper.

The manager of another service, Kirri Cleaver of Gotcha Enterprises, says 40 percent of the targeted men do not tell the female investigator they are in a committed relationship.

One investigator shared an even worse statistic.

"In our experience, subjects are innocent in only about 10 percent of cases," Dalla Riva is quoted as saying.

Said Cleaver:"Women don't want to waste their time, or be used or have their heart broken. You buy a house, you're going to have it checked for rising damp, but you get into a relationship and nobody asks any questions."


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KEYWORDS: australia; family; marriage; men; women
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1 posted on 12/21/2003 2:12:26 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
If I had a sweetheart who pulled that sort of stunt on me and I found out about it, she'd get the Righteous Boot Out The Door in a heartbeat. Relationships are supposed to be founded on trust. I could not live with any woman who bore that sort of distrust toward me. Such creatures can NEVER be satisfied with ANY honest answer, no matter how forthright you are!

That said, I wouldn't mind unleashing a few of these "honey traps" on Bill Clinton and the whole gaggle of Dumbocrat candidates...
2 posted on 12/21/2003 2:19:13 AM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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To: nickcarraway
I see no problem with this, quite frankly. To quote from the example cited in the article:

"She had just spent time with a client's husband in a bar. The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over."

Remain faithful to your marriage vows; don't let Mr. Winky do all of your thinking for you; and you have nothing whatsoever to worry about. In this, as in so many other instances: constancy and a few baseline moral standards are their own rewards, ultimately.

3 posted on 12/21/2003 2:23:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: nickcarraway
I saw a report on CNN about "infidelity" and one woman who knew her husband was cybering other women and sending pictures and in one case meeting them.

So she created an online persona for herself and lured him in and documented everything! What a moron...he was so busted.

4 posted on 12/21/2003 2:26:14 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: nickcarraway
What do the women do with the information if it comes back negative? Most of the time it will.....if they are that insecure about their marriage.....perhaps - all the time it will.

I wonder if Hillary hired Monica and Jennifer and .....
5 posted on 12/21/2003 2:30:11 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Prime Choice
I agree that they are some folks out there (men AND women) whose suspicions can never be calmed, but in that event you're probably being subjected to some nasty controlling efforts by the individual anyway and should be out of the relationship.

For everyone else, you're either committed to the relationship or ya ain't. Judging from the experiences of these "honey-trap girls", I'd say there's a lot of uncommitted folks fibbing to their sweethearts.

6 posted on 12/21/2003 2:33:11 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Prime Choice
If I had a sweetheart who pulled that sort of stunt on me...she'd get the Righteous Boot Out The Door in a heartbeat... I could not live with any woman who bore that sort of distrust toward me. Such creatures can NEVER be satisfied with ANY honest answer, no matter how forthright you are!

I have found that women who have such a childish proclivity to distrust are themselves distrustful.

7 posted on 12/21/2003 2:35:21 AM PST by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
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To: The Raven
severe mistrust based on insecurity will eventually lead to the fear becoming reality, which, in most cases, is a sigh of relief. sad.
8 posted on 12/21/2003 2:40:11 AM PST by I_dmc
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To: nickcarraway
They could hire my ex.

'course she'd do the cheating.
9 posted on 12/21/2003 2:41:11 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: nickcarraway
Maybe if men would get a little more attention at home, there wouldn't be the temptation to look elsewhere.
10 posted on 12/21/2003 3:36:53 AM PST by snopercod (In Spain, the president is called "President of the Government" not "President of the Country")
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To: nickcarraway
This seems to indicate that a lot of women equate “flirting” – or even just talking – with “infidelity”. There must be a lot of very insecure women out there.
11 posted on 12/21/2003 3:41:31 AM PST by R. Scott (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
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To: Prime Choice
Relationships are supposed to be founded on trust.

Fair enough, but what is trust founded on?

12 posted on 12/21/2003 3:55:16 AM PST by laredo44 (liberty is not the problem)
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To: nickcarraway
"These techniques have always been used, but in the past 10 years there has probably been a five-fold increase," he said.

A five-fold increase to what? This article is pure titillation and trumpets a nonexistent phenomenon. I contend women who would do this are few and far between.

13 posted on 12/21/2003 3:59:41 AM PST by laredo44 (liberty is not the problem)
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To: Chief_Joe; Prime Choice
If a woman hires one of these girls, and the guy is guilty, they deserve each other. I can't imagine a marriage based on anything but complete trust. What a stupid waste of time, if you commit your life to someone that you don't REALLY know.
14 posted on 12/21/2003 4:01:16 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: snopercod
An age-old excuse used by both sexes!
15 posted on 12/21/2003 4:09:23 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway
"In our experience, subjects are innocent in only about 10 percent of cases," Dalla Riva is quoted as saying.

That's 10% of husbands who frequently go to bars without their wives, not 10% of all husbands.

16 posted on 12/21/2003 4:10:23 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: nickcarraway
"Most blokes think below their belly button," Doolan told the paper."

Is this true?

17 posted on 12/21/2003 4:12:18 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Xenalyte
If you EVER do this to me......

......then we will have progressed along nicely. :o)

18 posted on 12/21/2003 4:12:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: nickcarraway
When various studies have shown that 10-15% of all children born to married women have a different biological father than the husband, one can safely say that this is an issue for both genders. Just imagine what the NOW gang and other feminazis would do if male models were hired to check out the faithfulness of girlfriends and wives.
19 posted on 12/21/2003 4:13:01 AM PST by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: Piltdown_Woman
re: For everyone else, you're either committed to the relationship or ya ain't. Judging from the experiences of these "honey-trap girls", I'd say there's a lot of uncommitted folks fibbing to their sweethearts.)))

The stats might be a bit tweaked by the fact that if a woman is suspicious enough to hire cheat-bait...she probably already *knows*...

20 posted on 12/21/2003 4:14:18 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Most blokes think below their belly button," Doolan told the paper."

Is this true?

Yes.

Most of us think with our ass.

21 posted on 12/21/2003 4:18:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: Lazamataz
Are you sure you aren't just speaking for yourself, Laz? ; )
22 posted on 12/21/2003 4:21:24 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Why is this any less trusting than a pre-nuptial agreement?
23 posted on 12/21/2003 4:24:25 AM PST by dwilli
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Most blokes think below their belly button," Doolan told the paper.

Is this true?

Oh, I'm sure it is. ALL my ex could do was think about anything below his belly button. LOL!

24 posted on 12/21/2003 4:25:15 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Without a doubt, our own government is the biggest enemy we have!!!!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
While they're at it, shouldn't wives also check their hubby's with gays?
25 posted on 12/21/2003 4:26:07 AM PST by dadokane (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. HATE OK.)
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To: R. Scott
Giving or getting a phone number is not exactly "flirting".
26 posted on 12/21/2003 4:26:58 AM PST by dwilli
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To: dadokane
Ummmm, shudda added, my wife busted me with a sheep...
27 posted on 12/21/2003 4:27:06 AM PST by dadokane (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. HATE OK.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wives hire other women to test 'cheating' men

Paul Begala's wife should hire another man for her test.

28 posted on 12/21/2003 4:28:03 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: anniegetyourgun
:o(
29 posted on 12/21/2003 4:30:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: dadokane
While they're at it, shouldn't wives also check their hubby's with gays?

And Sears wet-and-dry vacs?

30 posted on 12/21/2003 4:31:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: dadokane; Xenalyte
While they're at it, shouldn't wives also check their hubby's with gays?

And badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM.

31 posted on 12/21/2003 4:32:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: Young Rhino
Just imagine what the NOW gang and other feminazis would do if male models were hired to check out the faithfulness of girlfriends and wives.

Oh, I imagine there are plenty of men who check up on their wives like this. Cheating is a selfish act that leaves a lot of hurting people in the aftermath.

32 posted on 12/21/2003 4:37:26 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Without a doubt, our own government is the biggest enemy we have!!!!)
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To: dadokane
If it is true that "most blokes think below their belly button," then it might be good to check with anything that moves or doesn't.
33 posted on 12/21/2003 4:37:49 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Chief_Joe
I have found that women who have such a childish proclivity to distrust are themselves distrustful.

I think you meant that women who have such a proclivity to distrust are themselves untrustworthy. What you said is redundant :-)

34 posted on 12/21/2003 4:37:56 AM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: dwilli
My sentiments exactly.
35 posted on 12/21/2003 4:42:08 AM PST by R. Scott (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
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To: nickcarraway
That wife must be a truly charming woman. Through a deceitful subterfuge she has found out that her husband has very little affection for an insecure, deceitful woman and will offer his phone number like a rope thrown to a drowning man to the first pretty thing that bats her eyelashes. If she can't hold onto that man I doubt she will hold onto any other. Its a whole lot easier to get a man than to hold on to one.

(BTW, I have been married 25 yrs to the most interesting woman I have ever met and there isn't any woman on earth who is going get me from my wife. Its not a great feat when you are truly in love.)
36 posted on 12/21/2003 4:46:53 AM PST by Outrance
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To: anniegetyourgun
Take yesterday for instance.

When my wife got home from work, the house was clean, the firewood was stacked, the dishes were done, the windows were washed, the margarita was fixed, and I had a hot supper ready for her.

She flopped down in front of the TV and spent the rest of the evening bitching about what a crappy day she had at work.

What's wrong with this picture?

37 posted on 12/21/2003 4:47:16 AM PST by snopercod (I'm stranded all alone in the gas station of love and have to use the self-service pumps - Wierd Al)
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To: snopercod
Maybe if men would get a little more attention at home, there wouldn't be the temptation to look elsewhere.

I have always said

"Why eat a hamburger at a take out place when you can eat Ribeye at home"

38 posted on 12/21/2003 4:49:51 AM PST by JZoback
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To: Young Rhino
hen various studies have shown that 10-15% of all children born to married women have a different biological father than the husband.

Not that I doubt you saw that number stated somewhere, but I have a hard time believing it.

39 posted on 12/21/2003 4:55:31 AM PST by JZoback
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To: Lazamataz
And Sears wet-and-dry vacs?

LOL!

Thanks, Now I have coffee-keyboard syndrome.

40 posted on 12/21/2003 4:57:06 AM PST by e_engineer
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To: dadokane
As long as you're not a vet, that's no problem.
But if you're a vet, that's sick.
41 posted on 12/21/2003 4:57:13 AM PST by baltodog (When you're hanging from a hook, you gotta' get a bigger boat, or something like that.)
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To: JZoback
I used to mostly think below my waist, but at my age, I'm not nearly as smart as I used to be. :-)
42 posted on 12/21/2003 4:59:14 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: JZoback
I have always said

"Why eat a hamburger at a take out place when you can eat Ribeye at home"

Well, if one has to cook the ribeye at home themselves, a Big Mac could be a treat....

43 posted on 12/21/2003 5:00:38 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: nickcarraway; All
I wish my wife would hire Claudia Schiffer.
44 posted on 12/21/2003 5:02:26 AM PST by expatguy
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To: krb
I think you meant that women who have such a proclivity to distrust are themselves untrustworthy. What you said is redundant :-)

Thanks for the correction.

45 posted on 12/21/2003 5:04:05 AM PST by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
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To: nickcarraway
The man, married four years with two young children, gave Amber his telephone number before the evening was over.

Back when I knew an attractive flight attendant (stewardess) who used to give pesky guys, hitting on her for a telephone number, the # of a bug extermination firm. Maybe married guys in Aussie land should do the same thing ...

46 posted on 12/21/2003 5:08:20 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: nickcarraway
Nothing good can possibly happen when a member of the opposite sex is overly friendly at the first meeting. 50+ years experience speaking.
This new form of temptation, the tattletale temptress, is particularly hideous because it is unleashed by a supposed loved one.
47 posted on 12/21/2003 5:09:01 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: laredo44
Relationships are supposed to be founded on trust.

I trust everybody. I still cut the cards.

IMHO, It's far better to found that relationship upon faith in God first, then by faith an impersonal love for the spouse in premarriage courtship and then personal love and devotion as a couple in marriage through faith in God.

In Scripture, God never tempts anybody. One indication that one is dealing with a person without faith is if they continually tempt to sin. Sex within marriage isn't sinful per se, but this tactic indicates the wife bases her relationship upon trust rather than faith. It's doomed from the start.

Exposing the marriage to only trust, provides avenues for mistrust in any contrived thought or argument which has begun on a false premise.

48 posted on 12/21/2003 5:10:24 AM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: leadpenny
Hey, my ex would be another candidate for the job..also do the cheating!
49 posted on 12/21/2003 5:10:32 AM PST by Banjoguy
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To: expatguy

Could your wife afford to hire her?

50 posted on 12/21/2003 5:16:20 AM PST by JZoback
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