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Rush Limbaugh Blackmailed for $4 Million
AP via NewsMax ^
| 12/22/03
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Posted on 12/22/2003 4:06:07 PM PST by chiller
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To: scouse
The version still playing in my head 40 years later is Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah, ting tang, walla walla bing bang.
161
posted on
12/22/2003 9:29:05 PM PST
by
ntnychik
(Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?)
To: chiller; doxteve
KVI didn't give up Rush. Rush's syndicator moved him to KTTH 770. You can listen there. It is unfortunate for KVI, but Rusty is good and now you have two choices.
162
posted on
12/22/2003 9:45:41 PM PST
by
Libertina
(Michael Moore is the big bloated weasel in the little spider hole of weasels.)
To: longtermmemmory
To: witnesstothefall
"Black said Limbaugh suffered from a degenerative disc disease with "pain so great at one point doctors thought he had bone cancer," and that Limbaugh chose to take addictive painkillers rather than have surgery.
Surgery would have meant doctors would have gone through Limbaugh's throat to operate on his spine, which could threaten his career as a commentator, Black said."
After reading this I know what he has been through. I, too, have a degenerative disk, and I had the surgery. Fortunately they did not have to go through my throat altho they did advise it it was a possibility. It was successful for me--altho I had severe pain for several years afterwards and eventually took early retirement in order to be able to rest when the pain became too great . Before the surgery I laid down on the living room floor for days and only got up to go to the bathroom.
I've had two kids and let me tell you the pain from the disk was worse than childbirth as it did not let up! It was pure hell and I would have taken ANYTHING to get rid of it. I'm glad to know what happened as I can now understand why he did what he did.
I wonder what he is doing now. Hopefully he has legally perscribed pain killers or they have found some way to treat him that alleviates the pain.
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posted on
12/22/2003 10:06:05 PM PST
by
pepperdog
(God Bless and Protect our Troops)
To: pepperdog
I'm glad to know what happened I'm glad to know you find Roy Black to be credible. The man is a professional liar, and he's on the job.
I understand that critical thinking isn't welcome in RushLandia, but hasn't it ever occured to a single fan that Rush could have proactively released that portion of his medical records showing the diagnosis of his chronic, degenerative, awful, pitiable, long-suffering, victimizing back condition?
That's what really bugs me about it, the utter and willful lack of curiousity. In that regard, Rush's defenders are exactly like Clinton's. Wittingly unknowing.
To: witnesstothefall
lawyer
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/28/State/Broward_woman_charged.shtml ""Police first questioned Georges last month after two people died days apart in her home. One death was due to a drug overdose, according to the Broward Medical Examiner's Office. Authorities are conducting tests in the other case. ""
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/0/8D2B0CC50B094EB985256AFF0051E444?OpenDocument ""Dale R Snyder, 43, of 1542 Guava Avenue, was charged with trafficking in controlled substances and Medicaid fraud and faces a possible five years in prison and $5,000 fine for each offense.""
http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/governorinitiatives/drugcontrol/articles/traffic.html ""TALLAHASSEE · Florida agents said Tuesday they have arrested a Melbourne doctor and his assistant and issued 44 other arrest warrants in connection with a wide-scale investigation into the trafficking of the painkiller OxyContin and other drugs."" (statewide prosecutor BTW)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-fdrugmeet13dec13,0,5231763.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines ""Facing a grim spate of deaths in Florida due to prescription drug abuse, top state officials on Friday announced they are forming a task force to develop new fraud-fighting strategies.""
People in real pain can take medication that would kill anyone not in pain. But that has been discussed to death.
The articles you reference dominate on three common themes 1. medicade fraud 2. deaths 3. Push to make a statewide perscription database and every person was 4. a dealer. Aside from the drug problem, FL has a big problem with medicade fraud. This is especially critical given our elderly population.
This is an end user case, the end user cases are what the FL drug court program was established to deal with. If all they wanted to do was get their perp walk and mug shot we would have had this eight months ago. They have no hard evidence which is court admissible.
To: longtermmemmory
So you're not a criminal lawyer, are you? Crimes of omission and all that, lol.
To: longtermmemmory
The articles you reference dominate on three common themes 1. medicade fraud 2. deaths 3. Push to make a statewide perscription database and every person was 4. a dealer. Aside from the drug problem, FL has a big problem with medicade fraud. Thanks for reinforcing my earlier point, that the doctor-shopping statute is being applied over diverse fact-sets. You may have noticed that mention was made of medicare insurance receipts being among the evidence in Limbaugh's case. Further, my citations were very much less than exhaustive, as I'm sure you know being a JD. You could find better cites yourself, but you already know that.
But as I said, his criminal liability remains to be seen, even a layman can figure that much out without a law degree of any kind.
To: witnesstothefall
assume whatever you want.
To: witnesstothefall
all the examples are dealers. The court tracks for first time user cases and dealer cases are very seperate in FL. Also this case screams of putting the cart before the horse.
It remains to be seen how rush's penchant of paying cash for his medical services coincides with a medicare reciepts. It is worth noting the maid was caught up with a pharmacy which committed insurance fraud.
We will see since the odds favor the judge releasing the records. I do hope the judge is alert enough to put a gag order on the state and a leak order.
To: longtermmemmory
They have no hard evidence which is court admissible. That one line blows any credibility as a lawyer you may have wished to establish. You're already ruling at the evidentiary hearing, judge? Gimme a break. No lawyer worth his salt would speak to the existence or admissability of evidence at this stage. This is still just a story, not a criminal case, and neither of us is in a position to make such declarations either way. Jeez.
I'll ask you again, you a criminal lawyer?
To: chiller
Ed Shohat, the attorney for the Clines, denied Black's allegation.
"Rush Limbaugh confessed and admitted that he bought the pills. ... I know of no facts that my clients demanded money from Rush Limbaugh in any way," he said.
*** *** ** * *
Rush has never admitted buying pills from the woman. Only Cline's lawyer has made that statement. You have to watch out because the reporters are going to try and slip in facts from "sources" which are not connected to facts.
To: All
FYI
Florida Constitution:
....
SECTION 23. Right of privacy.--Every natural person has the right to be let alone and free from governmental intrusion into the person's private life except as otherwise provided herein. This section shall not be construed to limit the public's right of access to public records and meetings as provided by law.
History.--Added, C.S. for H.J.R. 387, 1980; adopted 1980; Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 13, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.
...
To: longtermmemmory
I tend to agree that if the facts support the notion that Rush was the end-user of all the pills he obtained through doctor-shopping or from street dealers via his maid, then a first-offense user case is all that'll be brought. But God help him if he was sharing or distributing in any way at all. They will eat him alive.
But this case, you'll admit, is taking a couple of unusual twists and turns. One man's blackmail can become another man's bribery for silence or obstruction of justice. Noone has presented evidence in public as to who initiated the conspiracy of silence, or how.
Other questions remain. Did Rush have narcotics in his possession when the NE story appeared? If so, what happened to them and when exactly? One man's rehab is another man's destruction of evidence.
And Roy Black is taking a calculated risk attacking the State in the media. It's not often you can put out a fire with gasoline. If the prosecutor didn't have it in for Rush to start with, he surely has it in for Roy Black by now.
To: longtermmemmory
People in real pain can take medication that would kill anyone not in pain. But that has been discussed to death.
That is completly untrue, a lethal dose is the same in either case. However, the amount to get high is higher for a person in pain. Once addicted and the tolerance for the drug goes up then the lethal dose gets a bit higher, but not much.
To: ConservativeMan55
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
12/23/2003 3:07:20 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: RS
The only way this makes any sense is if Rush is willing to go down on the trafficing charges to protect himself from the doctor-shopping and money-laundering charges. Still dosen't make sense to do this in the media instead of in the back room -Methinks there is even more to this then we think.
Methinks that people are missing the two major points:
1. The impeachment wars proved that there's a whole lot of felonies hanging around out there that people can be charged with. Most of these felonies are political and/or revenue enhancement "crimes".
2. If they can get Rush Limbaugh with this stuff, they can get ANYBODY, and this means you & me, too. Now, Rush will survive financially, but would you?
================================
"Felonies" of the week:
-From a reader letter to the Peoria Journal Star - "It's a felony to lie to Congress, and we've all grown weary of counting Bush's lies to Congress and to the world."
-Daniel Baas, 25, plead guilty Thursday to a single federal felony count of "exceeding authorized access" to a protected computer for using a cracked password to penetrate the systems of Arkansas-based Acxiom Corporation -- a company known among privacy advocates for its massive collection and sale of consumer data. The company also analyzes in-house consumer databases for a variety of companies.
From October, 2000 until last June, Baas worked as the system administrator at the Market Intelligence Group, a Cincinnati data mining company that was performing work for Acxiom. As part of his job, he had legitimate access to an Acxiom FTP server. At some point, while poking around on that server, he found an unprotected file containing encrypted passwords.
To: witnesstothefall
That's what really bugs me about it, the utter and willful lack of curiousity. In that regard, Rush's defenders are exactly like Clinton's. Wittingly unknowing. No, Rush's defenders are NOT exactly like Clinton's.
At the time of the impeachment wars, the issue of the credibility of the American "justice" system was in doubt.
Bill & Hillary proved conclusively that with enough money, mouthpieces and political spin from a friendly media, a "felony" is not a "felony".
The charges against Limbaugh are political and revenue-enhancement "felonies", and as such have no merit. Only a fool would acquiesce to a rigged "justice" system, especially if you have the money and power to fight it.
To: Diddle E. Squat
Who cares about Rush? I just wanna kiss you, Suzy... LOL!
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posted on
12/23/2003 6:14:05 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: an amused spectator
"If they can get Rush Limbaugh with this stuff, they can get ANYBODY, and this means you & me, too."
Seems like a new twist on the "everybody does it " defence.
I don't think we will ever know the complete facts, as the deal that will be made will seal Rush's lips.
...but for his lawyer to admit that he bought illegal drugs, BEFORE a deal is made, seems like they are working overtime to cover some other things up.
BTW - -From a reader letter to the Peoria Journal Star - "It's a felony to lie to Congress, and we've all grown weary of counting Bush's lies to Congress and to the world."
... you take legal consul from readers letters now ? - Do you KNOW that it is "a felony to lie to Congress" ?
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posted on
12/23/2003 6:24:00 AM PST
by
RS
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