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[LizardQueen]

While I'm aware and concerned about the demographic implications of a declining birthrate, having kids just to outbreed other groups seems like a really bad reason to have children, and quite a burden to put on them right from the get-go.

There's also an uncomfortable tinge of Hitlerian "breed for the republic" Aryan thinking in all of it.

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[DeuceTraveler]

About to log off the 'puter and you deliver a Steyn. Great timing.

[2banana]

Religious devotion and high birth rates go together. Utah has a very high birth rate of non-immigrant citizens and is one of the most "religious" states of the nation. Socialism destroys birth rates. Socialism has no need for God, has abortion on demand and makes each person a selfish twit unwilling to sacrifice his own material comfort and pleasures for a family with children. Look at what socialism has done to Europe, Japan, Russia and much of the United States within two generations. It has destroyed the culture thoroughly - something that wars, depressions and famines never even got close to doing...

[Wallace T.]

America is not exempt from the same problem Europe is facing, at least with respect to its white population, and to some extent its black population. With the mass media's glorification of homosexuality, the ready availability of abortion, the rise of militant feminism and its effects on both women and men, the ease and frequency of divorce, the widely held view that small families or no families are better for the environment, the promotion of hedonism and selfishness over and above duty and service, the rampant liberalism in the mainline Protestant churches and in a large portion of American Catholicism, and the overall decline in Christian influence in this country, white America is on the same path as their European kinsmen. Black Americans are basically on the same track as their white fellow citizens.

Our "brown meance" is Hispanic, not Middle Eastern, but the results will be about the same. Will "el Dallas" or "el Denver" come sooner or later than "al-Paris" or "al-Amsterdam"?

[RippleFire]

That's why, as practised by Buckinghamshire County Council, multiculturalism means All Saints Church can't put up one sheet of A4 paper announcing tomorrow night's carol service on the High Wycombe library notice board, but, inside the library, Rehana Nazir, the "multicultural services librarian", can host a party to celebrate Eid.Nice

[Cacique]

One hundred years of the ideology of abortion and birth control and this is what you get. The womb is, was and will always be the real weapon of mass destruction. Either we increase our numbers or sterilize our enemies.

[jordan8]

Demography is not necessarily destiny. Today's high Muslim birthrates will fall, and probably fall dramatically, as the Roman Catholic birthrates in Italy, Ireland and Quebec have. But demo-graphics is a game of last man standing. It's no consolation that Muslim birthrates will start falling in 2050 if yours are off the cliff right now. The last people around in any numbers will determine the kind of society we live in.
Just so.

The problem isn't the birth rate, after all Europe has a larger population than ever and the land mass is not growing. Nor is it the advancing age of that population since that is an inevitable effect of modern medicine and cannot be solved with Ponzi-like schemes either of natives births or immigration since these citizens will also live to a ripe old age. The problem is a political problem. It is the concept of multiculturalism, that the native peoples of Europe have no more claim to their historic homelands than any one else, indeed that it is evil to desire the continuation and existence of their cultures. The government of any healthy nation should exist only to support and uphold the people, culture, and sovereignty of that nation. Instead, throughout the West, we have the bizarre, possibly unprecedented, historical spectacle of the establishments of those countries spending huge amounts of effort and money to dispossess their own people, to de-Germanize Germany, de-Britonize Britian, etc., and in effect wipe their nations off the historical stage.

Some points on the suicidal religious cult that has seized the post-Christian West. First, it is a product of wealth and decadence, the classic wealth-induced gout that has destroyed many civilizations in the past. People who are comfortable will put up with anything that doesn't threaten that comfort, and will be hostile to anyone or thing that does, and the ruling class will portray any threat to their power as a threat to that comfort. Secondly, its lightning like spread and remarkable uniformity is the result of the technology of television and other forms of mass-media. Thirdly, it is largely an American product. Multiculturalism developed in the U.S. because the relatively large black population represented an opportunity to use race as a weapon to crack open the old society. This has worked incredibly well, and the European left, with a population conditioned by the massive output of American propaganda on the wonderfulness of diversity, and envious of the power of this political weapon, began importing their own minorities. What started out as a cynical politcal ploy has now become religious doctrine both in Europe and the U.S., a jihad stronger than the other one, to be continued at all costs, regardless of issues like sovereignty, environment, overcrowding, social peace and unity, freedom, democracy, or even the very existemce of the nation and civilization.

[gipper81]

I would have liked to have gotten a bar graph showing birth rates of women in their 20s as well but couldn't find it. This graph most certainly shows the impact of birth control and abortion in Europe.

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