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To: applemac_g4
You know, this thread has done more to make me fear for the future of the United States than almost anything else I've ever seen. This is supposed to be a bastion of conservatism - politically astute people suggesting politically astute policies - and instead half of you posters are acting like it's no big deal if Bush goes ahead and offers illegal immigrants amnesty.

I believe your fears are clearly based in a misunderstanding of what our position is and what Bush is proposing.

Bush is not for blanket amnesty for illegals. He's said that more than once.

He's for the hard-working, tax paying, contributing members of the illegal immigrant society getting a break. That's all.

Let's be reasonable about this. They are already part of our society..and they are not going to turn into terrorists because Bush has offered them amnesty. And if they possibly were illegal al Qaeda sleeper cells, they will now be on record and we will know who they are and where they are.
I think Bush is right on with this proposal.

185 posted on 12/28/2003 8:53:12 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
"He's for the hard-working, tax paying, contributing members of the illegal immigrant society getting a break. That's all. "

So you finally admit they are illegal in this country! What about the hard-working american citizen? What about them getting a break from being raped financially from the illegals responsible for bilking our economy dry and having our hospitals shut down due to lack of funds? What about our state courts that are having to shut down and merge with other courts due to lack of state funds? Guess who gets stuck with the high bills on that? The attorneys! That's right, the attorneys pay the higher cost due to lack of state funds.

And tell me another thing...why are most businesses leaving the State of California? There is no business here anymore. The jobs are gone. If these illegals want to take over and destroy this State they have done a great job. The problem is, we americans aren't paying for this out of our pockets anymore. Guess who picks up the tab? Certainly not the feds cause they've through bailing this State out.


188 posted on 12/28/2003 9:13:59 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Jorge
Bush is not for blanket amnesty for illegals. He's said that more than once.

What he says is for public consumption. He and his donors want a blanket amnesty and would have got it if 9/11 hadn't complicated things.

He's for the hard-working, tax paying, contributing members of the illegal immigrant society getting a break. That's all.

He cares more about illegal aliens than average Americans.

Let's be reasonable about this. They are already part of our society..and they are not going to turn into terrorists because Bush has offered them amnesty.

True. But granting them legal status will not stop their demand for government services or ease school overcrowding which are bankrupting my State.

190 posted on 12/28/2003 9:54:58 PM PST by Penner
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To: Jorge
Let's be reasonable about this.

Are you kidding? This is FR. The black helicopters are always lurking and people mowing the fairways at the local golf course are the greatest threat to civilization ever known.

197 posted on 12/29/2003 5:57:47 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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