[Orangedog]

Since the partisans declared war on the family, we should surrender, have no children from now one -- and as a result there will be no partisans due to the fact that there will be no people. That'll work.

What men have been doing for the past 30 years is about as close to surrender as you can get. Let's go further into the war analogy: What kind of army keeps fighting on a battlefield and with tactics that constantly gets their troups mowed-down again and again?. That is the kind of army that is bound and determined to lose. Working in todays political arena as a battlefield is a losing tactic. The numbers of people who either want us subjigated or just plain don't care are staggering. Trying to organize political revolt hasn't worked and will not work in this environment. A wise man chooses the battlefield and tactics that plays to his strengths. We have no strength in either party at any level or branch of government. We WILL continue to lose on that battlefield. What we have to do is choose tactics that play to our strengths. After examining the possibilities, the only logical alternative is stop feeding the monster. We need to cut off it's air supply and force it to deal on OUR terms. When the number of marriages drop and when the new number of support cases is no longer sufficient to replace the old cases, then the industry will face it's first truely serious threat to it's existence. As the years go on, the weaker the government agencies will become. Eventually it will starve. Then we will be in a position to dictate terms to it, just like it has been dictating terms to us. You can't negotiate with a cancer. You cannot coexist with a cancer. It MUST be eliminated or it will kill you. Often the course of treatment puts that patient's life in jeopardy, but not taking that course will always result in death of that patient.

[JudgemAll]

What men have been doing for the past 30 years is about as close to surrender as you can get.

Yep, you can say that too. Look at affirmative action benefiting women, for example. Yet go to any prosecution's office and it will crawl with feminazies and little men. As a man stepping in there to complain, it feels like a black is stepping in a KKK dominated prosecution's office. There is overt discrimination in the appointments of social workers and prosecutors and now even cops, but no one is speaking up.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Tell it on the mountain.

[RogerFGay]

That won't work. Politicians will continue to get lots of women pregnant and they'll continue the policy of forcing other men at random to provide financial support for them. That'll create an entire new generation exclusively from the politician gene pool. It'll be like the end of Hitchhikers' guide to the galaxy when the accountants are all that's left.