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Revelations from the Russian Archives [a peek at the far left]
Library of Congress ^

Posted on 12/26/2003 6:01:11 AM PST by The Raven

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This is one way to eliminate class struggle.
1 posted on 12/26/2003 6:01:12 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Stalin intentionally murdered 10 million peasants in the Ukraine. The Republic of the Ukraine has petitioned for the revocation of the Pullitzer prize awarded to the New York Times for its reportage on the achievements of "uncle" Joe Stalin and Russian socialism, since the NYT ignored the carnage and failed to report the truth (the petition was recently denied, but I think I recall that the Republic of the Ukraine will continue to try to reveal the truth about Stalin and NYT complicity in the great lie).

Stalin also probably murdered his wife, by the way.

2 posted on 12/26/2003 6:19:55 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: The Raven
bump
3 posted on 12/26/2003 6:36:51 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: The Raven
Two points to ponder.
1. We are engaged in "a battle for the soul of the
Republic".
2. Liberals are the intellectual heirs of the American
Communist Party.

Much as I disliked Poe, his line croaked the Raven - "Nevermore" is worth remembering.

Never forget the poison fruits of he Tree of Liberalism.
4 posted on 12/26/2003 6:39:58 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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The disenchantment of the majority of intellectuals did not surprise Lenin, who saw the old Russian intelligentsia as a kind of rival to his "party of a new type," which alone could bring revolutionary consciousness to the working class. In his view, artists generally served bourgeois interests, a notion that fueled the persecution of intellectuals throughout the Soviet period.

Funny, to gain power they court the "intellectuals" and who do they round up and send to the gulags first? The "intellectuals!"

One would think that the "intellectuals" could read history and learn from it. Then again they are "intellectuals."

5 posted on 12/26/2003 6:59:08 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: The Raven
Very fascinating. Thanks for posting.
6 posted on 12/26/2003 7:16:39 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: TheGeezer
Stalin also probably murdered his wife, by the way.

I didn't know that. What was she "guilty" of?

7 posted on 12/26/2003 7:18:59 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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bfl
8 posted on 12/26/2003 7:20:27 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: The Raven
It cost millions of lives, but the collective farm system is here to stay.

What an alibi for murder. Beware of nutjobs inventing alibis for anything.

9 posted on 12/26/2003 7:28:02 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: The Raven
Bump!
10 posted on 12/26/2003 7:28:23 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: SandRat
Intellectuals are tenured idiots who are not chosen by markets or by their work worth, but by committee judges and proofs and references. The intellectuals are bitter and suspicious at the capitalists who seem to make it with gut instinct and without proving his plan will work.

So the smart arse intellectual decides to ask the working proletaria it can easily manipulate, impress and mystify, to join forces against the suspicious, if not, guilty capitalists. Of course the workers are not there to accept the imposed rules of the intellectuals, which are more disastrous, less workable and less "optionable" than market "rules". So they revolt against the intellectuals. Of course, the only winner in the utopia of the materless communist society is the remaining master who rules over every single detail of society without intermediary judges, but puppet judges acting under direct orders of enforcement.

Yep, when they kill all the masters, only one master remains at the helm of this human life sewage system. No good did goes unpunished, and whoever can advertise doing something wicked is most likely to be admired.

11 posted on 12/26/2003 7:35:02 AM PST by JudgemAll
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Additional reading In Denial: Historians, Communism, and Espionage
12 posted on 12/26/2003 7:41:02 AM PST by The Raven
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My wife has a Ukranian friend who is in her late 20's. She was raised being told stories of the Ukrainian famine. It was known as the "Fake Famine." You can surf to Ukranian historical sites and read about it. It would seem that no one has forgotten. Atheistic Communism at work.
13 posted on 12/26/2003 7:46:17 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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since the NYT ignored the carnage and failed to report the truth...

Ther were a lot of American journalists who were nothing more than whores for a mass murderer.

14 posted on 12/26/2003 7:47:08 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: PistolPaknMama
What was she "guilty" of?

The evidence suggests she protested to Stalin about his murders.

15 posted on 12/26/2003 7:56:34 AM PST by aristeides
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To: TheGeezer
The ugly irony of Stalin's mass murder of the Ukrainian middle class farmers was that the deafening silence among the West's intelligencia and news services (thanks in large measure to the misinformation of Walter Duranty of the New York Times) had a profound influence on the German National Socialists, who had extensive ties with the Soviet Armed forces in the early thirties. The German Luftwaffe for example trained in secret in the Soviet Union the first years of Hitler's rule.

The German military attaches reported the murders of the millions in the Ukraine, and set the stage for the murder of six millions Jews and millions of other "undesirables" by the Nazis... continuing the pioneering work of the Socialist vanguard, the USSR, in the 1930's

16 posted on 12/26/2003 8:00:56 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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The German Luftwaffe for example trained in secret in the Soviet Union the first years of Hitler's rule.

The military cooperation between Germany and the Soviet Union ended quite early in Hitler's rule, between May and October 1933. Sebastian Haffner describes how in his book Der Teufelspakt: Die deutsch-russischen Beziehungen vom Ersten zum Zweiten Weltkrieg (pp. 131-2).

Haffner's words, published in 1988, were confirmed by the Soviet documents later revealed and published in Yuri Djakov & Tatyana Bushuyeva, The Red Army and the Wehrmacht: How the Soviets Militarized Germany, 1922-33, and Paved the Way for Fascism.

17 posted on 12/26/2003 8:21:32 AM PST by aristeides
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"My wife has a Ukranian friend who is in her late 20's. She was raised being told stories of the Ukrainian famine. It was known as the "Fake Famine." You can surf to Ukranian historical sites and read about it. It would seem that no one has forgotten. Atheistic Communism at work.

It must be remembered that Ukranians of today did not descend fron those who starved but from the "starvers".

18 posted on 12/26/2003 9:00:28 AM PST by shamusotoole
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To: PistolPaknMama
She publicly humiliated him at a party, if I recall correctly. She was found dead of, allegedly, a self-inflicted gunshot wound later that same evening.
19 posted on 12/26/2003 9:01:53 AM PST by TheGeezer
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The libs of today don't seem to give a whiff about the millions executed by socialists for non-conformity or simply to produce fear......and for what? -- For this ideology?

The libs are still fighting for this neutral class state (tax the rich)...and it bogglers the mind. They can't get humans to vountarily abide by this system. They can't scare them into it. They can't force them into it. So they kill them.

Far greater atrocities than Hitler and yet it's invisible in your children's history books.

Don't let go of the 2nd Amendment.
20 posted on 12/26/2003 9:15:23 AM PST by The Raven
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