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To: Headfulofghosts
Do you propose Russia keep a contingent of military in Cuba to make sure Lourdes is not used by Castro? The scent of tin foil is building in the air around here.
8 posted on 12/26/2003 11:04:27 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
I think it probably would be wise to keep a contingent of US military there. One, I don't trust the Russians or Putin at all- look what they did in Iraq. Why were fmr. Soviet Generals in Baghdad before the war started? So it probably would make since, that a contingent of fmr. KGB or even soviet military are still there. The Kremlin had to know about what was going on in Baghdad, yet did nothing.
9 posted on 12/26/2003 11:12:02 AM PST by Headfulofghosts
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To: gcruse
I don't know about tinfoil in respect to the Cuban's, but in respect to the Chinese and their use of Lourdes, well that's another matter!!
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Intelligence news: China to build new communications spy base in Cuba

The recent meeting between China's Minister of Defense Chi Haotian and his Cuban counterpart Raul Castro, has led to a joint military agreement that threatens the United States, the Orlando Sentinel reports. China has agreed to build a new electronic spying facility and modernize Cuba's satellite tracking base at Jaruco, Cuba. The facility neighbors the large Russian-manned signal intelligence complex at Lourdes, which can monitor U.S. civilian and military telecommunications in an area that covers from California to Europe. Under the agreement, the Chinese will also modernize Castro's telecommunications monitoring base in Havana.



CUBA
Whilst the US and NATO were busy in Yugoslavia, China was cementing relations with Cuba and is now financing and modernising Cuba's telecommunications and electronics industry. Chinese President Jiang Zemin met with Cuban President Fidel Castro 13th April 2001 and signed contracts for US$400 million of business. In addition to the telephone system and electronics the agreements cover sports, educational exchange, maritime relations, a fiscal agreement to avoid double taxation, economic and technical exchanges, a bank credit for a hotel now being built in downtown Havana and a US$150 million credit for the purchase of Chinese television sets. During Jiang's visit a high level American trade delegation left Cuba empty handed.

China's Defence Minister visited Cuba over one year ago. China already has a techno-spy base and communication bases in Cuba and is building intelligence facilities at Torrens/Lourdes adjacent to a massive Russian facility already in operation. It has been reported that the Lourdes facility is the largest such complex operated by the Russian Federation and its intelligence service outside the region of the former Soviet Union. The Lourdes facility is reported to cover a 28 square-mile area with some 1,500 Russian engineers, technicians, and military personnel working at the base. Experts familiar with the Lourdes facility have reportedly confirmed that the base has multiple groups of tracking dishes and its own satellite system, with some groups used to intercept telephone calls, faxes, and computer communications in general, and other groups used to cover targeted telephones and devices. The Lourdes facility also monitors the U.S. Atlantic fleet and elements of U.S. Pacific fleet operations as well as domestic, commercial and military communications throughout the Americas.

The Cuban Missile Crisis between Russia and America in October 1962 successfully stopped Russia from installing strategic missiles on Cuba. Today China has a strong presence within Cuba and could position strategic missiles on the island relatively easily. Nothing has been done to address this potentially dangerous situation of cities throughout North America becoming targeted by missiles to be launched out of Cuba.

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/chinagrowingthreatapr01.shtml

May 6 The recent meeting between China's Minister of Defense Chi Haotian and his Cuban counterpart Raul Castro, has led to a joint military agreement that threatens the United States, the Orlando Sentinel reports. China has agreed to build a new electronic spying facility and modernize Cuba's satellite tracking base at Jaruco, Cuba, The facility neighbors the large Russian-manned signal intelligence complex at Lourdes, which can monitor U.S. civilian and military telecommunications in an area that covers from California to Europe. Under the agreement, the Chinese will also modernize Castro's telecommunications monitoring base in Havana.
http://www.afpc.org/crm/crm201.htm
10 posted on 12/26/2003 11:14:05 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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