Gadhafi (Libya)armed al-Qaeda with germ bombs (bioterror): report

Hindu News ^ | Dec. 28, 2003 | PTI

[FairOpinion]

London, Dec 28. (PTI): Libyan leader Maommar Gadhafi, who recently abandoned his country's weapons of mass destruction programme, had armed al-Qaeda terror network with germ bombs, a report claimed today.

Libyan intelligence chief Musa Kusa told British secret service agency Mi5 that tens of thousands of weapons had been produced at 10 secret sites in the country, the Sunday Express said.

Kusa has named 500 al-Qaeda terrorists in Britain and the information he gave is being checked, it said.

Libya was closer than Syria, Iran and Iraq to producing a nuclear bomb but last week Gadhafi surrendered his weapons of mass destruction and was praised for his "statesmanship and courage" by British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George Bush.

He was welcomed back on to the world stage on the agreement that his help to Osama Bin Laden would never officially be mentioned, the report claimed.

"It was a sweetener deal like no other. Gadhafi's links to terrorism have been air-brushed," said a senior British intelligence officer.

Kusa escorted British officials to Libya's secret sites on what was described as "the best bus tour in intelligence history."

[FairOpinion]

That's why Khadaffi/Qaddafi/Gadhafi/etc. came cleam -- he knew that if an AQ attack using WMD would succeed against the US, he and his country would be history.

I also think that the detailed specific info we got from him was one of the major factors in raising the alert.

[FairOpinion]

PING

[Tamzee]

Kusa has named 500 al-Qaeda terrorists in Britain and the information he gave is being checked

Now that Gadhafi turned to the white hats, the blacks hats will consider him an enemy. He has added motivation to help us nail as many Al Qaeda as possible.

[Pubbie]

I wonder what else Gadafi knows about AQ and it's links to Terrorist States.

Gadafi had better watch out, AQ is going to make taking him out a priority.

[FairOpinion]

"I also think that the detailed specific info we got from him was one of the major factors in raising the alert."

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I was just speculating on this, basically using some common sense and here is an article discussing this in more detail:

Gadhafi armed al-Qaida with bio-chem weapons
U.S. raised terror alert largely due to new Libyan intelligence

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36346


Not only has that new intelligence led to heightened terror alerts in the U.S. and Britain, but the agreement has prompted new threats on Gadhafi's life by al-Qaida terrorists.

In what one intelligence officer later called an "extraordinarily detailed debrief," Kussa revealed to U.S. and Bristish intelligence:


Al-Qaida obtained some of its weapons through a Brazilian arms dealer, Suekdew Siew, travelling on an Australian passport. He used an alias, David Sunkar. Siew spoke fluent Arabic and carried a letter of credit from the Baltic Bank of Reconstruction and Development in Riga, Latvia.

Other al-Qaida weapons purchasers were from the former Soviet Union.

Some weapons were flown out under diplomatic seal to Balkan airports on Libyan airlines. From there, they were transported to Afghanistan.

Other weapons were taken out of Libya through the Sudan and eventually by Arab dhows, small boats, to Yemen.

Kussa said he had "reliable information" that al-Qaida had stockpiled chemical and biological weapons in the Balkans.

[Lazamataz]

Al Qaeda Methodology treasure trove.

[boris]

Let's send more aid to Libya.

[Lazamataz]

Gadafi had better watch out, AQ is going to make taking him out a priority.

They already have.

That's part of the reason he's come around.

He's looking for a Witness Protection Program thing.

[leadpenny]

I agree. We need to put our money (and diplomats) where our mouth is.

[FairOpinion]

"Kussa said he had "reliable information" that al-Qaida had stockpiled chemical and biological weapons in the Balkans."

==

With this new info, another article I found also becomes more relevant and important:

EU prostitute corridor may let in terror bomb

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/387232.cms

ROTTERDAM : Efforts to tighten security for sea-borne containers won't lessen the risk that terrorists could team up with criminal gangs to sneak a nuclear weapon into Europe by land, through the poorly policed Balkans, some security experts warn.

Al-Qaeda or some other terrorist group could send a Soviet-built tactical warhead along the same, well-traveled routes that traffickers use to smuggle prostitutes and drugs into western Europe, said Tom Sanderson of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington .

A nuclear artillery shell, pilfered or purchased from the 12,000 tactical weapons stockpiled in Russia , would take up no more space than a slender garbage can. Gangs could even move such a package along with some of the thousands of women from eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union who journey west through the Balkans each year.

"I just can't believe it hasn't happened already," Sanderson said. "There's no reason why a nuclear warhead couldn't go into the same van with those five Romanian girls, using the routes that these guys know."

Chris Wright of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London agreed that smuggling routes through southeastern Europe are well established and said there is "a lot of scope" for collusion between terrorist groups and criminal gangs.

By bribing underpaid border guards, traffickers based in the Balkans could transport a warhead across the porous frontiers of southeastern Europe and over the Adriatic Sea to Italy , Sanderson said. Once in Italy , they could travel anywhere inside the 15-nation European Union without having to stop for a customs inspection.

"These guys have been running this same gig for 10 to 12 years. They know which Bulgarian guard on the western border is on duty at what time to allow them to penetrate into Serbia and Kosovo. Then they know which Albanian border patrol is on duty at which time to get them to port. And then they know which shipping company or cargo boats are going to Italy and when it's safe to do that," he said.

Terrorists could pay a gang and await delivery of their deadly cargo at a prearranged destination in western Europe, Sanderson said, instead of hiding a bomb inside a container and trying to bring it into Europe themselves through a relatively secure port like Rotterdam .

"This system is already in place. They don't have to create it."

Wright argued that terrorists and criminals would have to overcome mutual distrust. Terrorists might worry that gang members would turn them over to authorities, while smugglers might fear a severe crackdown by European governments if they contributed to a successful attack.

But "a dollop of money" from well-financed terrorists might seal the deal, Wright suggested.

Russia isn't a crucial part of this alarming scenario. If terrorists succeeded in obtaining a weapon of mass destruction elsewhere, they could ship it from a backwater port in Africa or the Middle East to a terminal in the former Yugoslavia , where their Balkan partners could then take over, Sanderson said.

[The Mayor]

Bump!

He is being smart and choosing the right side.

[Defender2]

#1. and #10. thanks for posting this informative and needed post. We have to continue to be on WATCH.

[csvset]

Kusa has named 500 al-Qaeda terrorists in Britain and the information he gave is being checked, it said.

Sounds like a small army. So, how many AQ terrorists are in the US?

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

Gadafi had better watch out, AQ is going to make taking him out a priority.

Yep, and it'll be pretty easy to kill a guy who sleeps in a tent

[sam_paine]

I also think that the detailed specific info we got from him was one of the major factors in raising the alert.

Mebbe so. It could also be a counter-intel tweak to scare certain cells into the light.

I think the primary advantage of a distributed terror network can also be used against it. Osama and/or the centralized leadership of the organization can send out coded messages to Terror Cell A and Terror Cell B, but they are independent groups which cannot rat on the other groups because they have no lateral contact. However, if the CIA announces that Terror Cell X's plot to hijack Air France was broken up, Terror Cells A and B have to be vigilant and concerned that they might also be compromised.

If there really is no lateral communication, Terror Cell A and B can't really know if X was a real cell or a ruse of counter-intelligence. Either way, they may be forced to regroup and re-evaluate their own secrecy and security and thus delay or disrupt any attack.

[myprecious]

The other part of the reason - the AQ check might have bounced. Bush choked off a lot of $$$.

[aculeus]

Khadafi's "surrender" was the really big news, bigger than the capture of Saddam.

He knows lots about AQ and is, I bet, cooperating to the fullest.

Fear is a wonderful motivator.

[FairOpinion]

"Khadafi's "surrender" was the really big news, bigger than the capture of Saddam.
He knows lots about AQ and is, I bet, cooperating to the fullest."
Fear is a wonderful motivator.


===

You are absolutely right. The Bush doctrine is working.

[FreeReign]

Gadafi had better watch out, AQ is going to make taking him out a priority.

It's already happening. Al-Qaida assassins after Gadhafi

[Jammz]

Reading all this makes me wonder... Is it possible that there's about to be an attack and knowing this, Libya decided to come clean so that nothing gets traced back to them the hard way?

I think Libya knows that we'll bomb them to the stone age if something were traced back to them. We've come close to that before. The american public would demand some pretty serious action after a bio attack.

[sandydipper]

Jeeze - I guess that Dean will name Gaddafi to a cabinet post.

[FairOpinion]

"Is it possible that there's about to be an attack and knowing this, Libya decided to come clean so that nothing gets traced back to them the hard way? "

==

That's my guess as well, and I bet we are close to the truth.

[I_love_weather]

Most likely the clock is already ticking for the attack.

Libya coming forward just in time to save their butt?

Interesting thoughts...

[FreeReign]

He's looking for a Witness Protection Program thing.

Imagine having this guy show up as your new anonymous neighbor.

[rwfromkansas]

probably at least 4,000.....

[pax_et_bonum]

PING

[Southack]

Musa Kusa is known to have spent millions infiltrating Mosques throughout the Middle East over the past 25 years.

Right now, he has no real alternative but to obey Khadafy and turn over *all* intel to us, which will include giving us access to agents who are already infiltrated into places that we need them.

It's not unreasonable to think that more than a few Libyan sleepers are about to be activated *for* us, and no doubt our hit teams are going to be making some very private scores in the near future.

This is a very bad time to be associated with Bin Laden. There must be Palestinians and Lebanese right now who are smart enough to have figured out where all this is leading, and those will be the ones who start having trouble sleeping at night.

[FairOpinion]

Good assessment! --- as usual. :)

[mikegi]

I don't believe a word of this article. If AQ had WMDs of any kind it would have used them already.

[Destro]

So when will those who allowed al-Qaeda free rein in the Balkans be held accountable?

[FairOpinion]

"So when will those who allowed al-Qaeda free rein in the Balkans be held accountable?"

==

Good point! Clinton was surely on the wrong side, wasn't he?!

[nothingnew]

"I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!"

We're old Laz......

FMCDH

[FairOpinion]

"If AQ had WMDs of any kind it would have used them already."

==

Why? There are a thousand reasons, that they may not have, everything from wanting escalation, to terrorist sponsoring countries having strongly advised them otherwise, and so on.

[EGPWS]

I wonder what else Gadafi knows about AQ and it's links to Terrorist States.

Gadafi had better watch out, AQ is going to make taking him out a priority.

Keep a guard up Dubya',for with all the "chatter" lately, don't disregard Mohammar as being a part of the Alqeda agenda, however in the current situation, I doubt this to be true.

[Destro]

Dude, it is a scandal that damns both parties and many generals and diplomats. NATO has divisions and bases in these Balkans and they let al-Qaeda in? On purpose? When? Why? How?

[Beck_isright]

"Let's send more aid to Libya."

I'd rather buy more oil from Libya than those smelly pig bastards in Saudi Arabia.

[Lazamataz]

We're old Laz......

I grant you that.

But I was never gonna be rich when I was young, so......

[genefromjersey]

Shouldn't this one be with the "Bush Plans to Invade the Moon" article ?? When did the Hindu Times become notable for its accuracy ?

ps: I see no mention of India's own rather extensive biowarfare capabilities.

[FairOpinion]

Frequently foreign news is ahead of the US media.

The Hindu Times is a major newspaper in India.

Also the Australian news had a couple of days lead on the AQ targeting cruise ships story.

[Mo1]

Now that Gadhafi turned to the white hats, the blacks hats will consider him an enemy. He has added motivation to help us nail as many Al Qaeda as possible.

There may also be attempts made on his life for giving this info

[FairOpinion]

Clinton was eager to save the "poor Bosnia Muslims" from the Serbs, who should have been given a medal for working on eradicating the Islamicists.

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/oct03/hed6041.shtml

Reuters, October 9, 2003
Al Qaeda bogeyman at work as US rethinks Balkans

By Douglas Hamilton

SARAJEVO, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Serb and Croat nationalists are warning Washington that Bosnia's Muslims will let Al Qaeda infest the soft underbelly of Europe, unless they are called in to guarantee security should the U.S. military quit the Balkans.

Western diplomats in the region discount the threat. They believe the nationalists' real goal, as ever, is to isolate the Muslims and split Bosnia on ethnic lines, while winning kudos as America's staunch ally in some "clash of civilisations".

But they worry that scare-mongering may sway Congress.

An October article in the Washington Times says Bosnia "now serves as a base" for Al Qaeda. Croats are the best U.S. ally on the "front-lines in the war against Islamic terrorism in the Balkans" and can be its "eyes and ears", the Times says.

[wayoverontheright]

This is a very bad time to be associated with Bin Laden.

First humiliation, followed by denial, then fear, accompanied by respect, then resignation, followed by realignment of allegiances, then capitulation, followed by peace.

[FairOpinion]

http://propagandamatrix.com/us_supported_al_qaeda_cells_during_balkan_wars.html

They give the original link to the article, but it's an old link.

But the article has some disturbing revelations.


U.S. supported al-Qaeda cells during Balkan Wars
Fought serbian troops


Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network has been active in the Balkans for years, most recently helping Kosovo rebels battle for independence from Serbia with the financial and military backing of the United States and NATO.

The claim that al-Qaeda played a role in the Balkan wars of the 1990s came from an alleged FBI document former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic presented in his defence before the Hague tribunal last week. Mr. Milosevic faces 66 counts of war crimes and genocide.

Although Hague prosecutors have challenged the veracity of the document, which Mr. Milosevic identified as a Congressional statement from the FBI dated last December, Balkan experts say the presence of al-Qaeda militants in Kosovo and Bosnia is well documented.

[HardStarboard]

>>>Kusa has named 500 al-Qaeda terrorists in Britain and the information he gave is being checked<<<

I hope that "checked" implies a more proactive response that the word generally means!

Knock, knock...Yes, Good afternoon Sir. I'm Sargent Teeves from Scotland Yard. Libya's intelligence chief has indicated you may have ties to al Qaeda and international terrorism. I just thought I'd drop by and check to see if your indeed one of those types of people."

[FairOpinion]

Knock, knock...Yes, Good afternoon Sir. I'm Sargent Teeves from Scotland Yard. Libya's intelligence chief has indicated you may have ties to al Qaeda and international terrorism. I just thought I'd drop by and check to see if your indeed one of those types of people."


==

Well, this is what would happen if the French were doing the checking, but fortunately they are not.

(As you know, we are still looking for the terrorists the French warned and let loose after questioning, who were trying to hijack teh Air France planes)

[Destro]

I am glad I am not alone. Means I will not be the only target.

[nothingnew]

But I was never gonna be rich when I was young, so......

Well, I'm not going to be rich old either, but life sure is a hoot.

FMCDH

[vp_cal]

for some reason after reading your passage
a scene from Aliens comes to mind in which
they they have just realized that their
plane has crashed and there is no easy way
off the planet:

[The drop-ship crashes]
Hudson: Well that's great, that's just f* great man, now what the f* are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty s* now man... That's it man, game over man, game over, man! Game over! What the f* are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?

[FreeAtlanta]

It does sound like something big is in play, and he wants to insulate his nation and his life. I was first happy about the announcement he was giving up WMD, now I feel concerned and worry if we have been duped. I say, if an attack comes and it traces back to Lyba, then all bets should be off and we nuke the SOB.

[AdmSmith]

This is not correct. The salafists/wahhabis have been after Qaddafi for many years, he has been working with us since 2001 at halfspeed and at 100 % since this summer. The only way for his family (read: his son) to stay in charge is to ask for help from the West. He has not given AQ any WMD, that is BS.