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Conservativism, Chronicles and Paleoconservativism
The American Conservative Union ^ | 12/30/2003 | Don Devine

Posted on 12/30/2003 6:56:37 AM PST by JohnGalt

Conservativism, Chronicles and Paleoconservativism

Thomas Fleming, the brilliant editor of the self-styled paleoconservative magazine, Chronicles, deserves much of the blame for the founding of ConservativeBattleline. Months ago, he published an editorial proclaiming the "fusionist" conservatism of old National Review was dead and that no one under 60 years old adhered to its principles any longer. In the most recent issue, leading columnist Samuel Francis makes the same damning indictment, adding, fusionism "died childless."

Being over sixty myself, it was hardly apt to respond to the editor--this would merely confirm his charge. Besides, the truth hurts. I was afraid he was correct but decided to search to find out if he was right. I certainly could not think of many "children" myself, other than my own brood. Investigating various conservative sources, I became more alarmed than ever that the younger movement truly did consist solely of what Francis bitingly calls "happy talk," bumper sticker, teenage Republican conservatism. Being a cantankerous sort-after all I did read Chronicles-I went further and sent a memo challenging fusionists to show themselves if, in fact, they still existed.

They poured out in hundreds of e-mail responses and a record number of "hits" to the American Conservative Union web site, demanding we publish a center-line fusionist conservative journal of opinion. Of course, most were unfamiliar with the term fusionist-and that is fine, it is not essential-but, as good conservatives, they knew it when they saw it. So we launched ConservativeBattleline.com. Several of the responses to the first edition appear as letters to the editor in this one-including a good number of "children." Thank you, Chronicles, for raising the challenge and stirring up the troops.

Chronicles proclaims itself paleoconservative but I must confess that, after all of these years of regular readership, I do not know precisely what it is. Its writers say it differs from Frank Meyer, fusionist conservatism so it would be insulting on my part to claim we are the same. So, by its own reckoning, paleoconservatism and conservatism differ but it is not clear to me exactly how. In many years of conversation with Tom Fleming, the only philosophical difference I remember with the classical scholar is how we interpret John Locke and Aristotle. He seems to reject the rationalistic element in fusionism's synthesis of reason and tradition, demanding not dual roots but less abstract idealism and more actual history and real institutions. He makes the same charge against Meyer, Locke and Aristotle as bet noir Leo Strauss but comes to the opposite conclusion. While I differ from some specific applications of his philosophy, I am uncertain of where the transition occurs.

With Samuel Francis, the very clever and thoughtful theorist of paleoconservatism, the distinctions are clearer. Indeed, he seems to differ from Fleming too--so different, one wonders if there really is any common basis for paleoconservatism. Both Fleming and Francis do call for a more material, natural, institutional foundation for politics and social life and both distrust rational formulations such as conservative or American creeds but their agreement seems to end there. Contrary to the case with Mr. Fleming, I rarely agree with Mr. Francis. Indeed, he dismisses the central Reagan conservative political concern with "the growth of 'big government' and preserving the personal liberty the leviathan state" threatens. Other than recognizing that the Reagan-conservative support for the cold war contributed to the growth of the state, he claims we do not "have a clue" why fusionist conservatism failed.

The problem with our conservatism, Mr. Francis says, is that it has no social base. For he is a disciple of the early James Burnham, the then semi-Marxist who believed that deeply-rooted collective social forces determine all important societal outcomes. Fusionism was originally rooted in the old, pre New Deal republican ruling classes, based on "private property, free enterprise, small government constrained by law, the nation state, the nuclear family and the values that bound it together in what in general is known as 'bourgeois morality.'" But today that class and its values and, especially, its power institutions are obviously overwhelmed by the progressive experts of the modern welfare state. All that remains of fusionist conservatism is a bunch of (old) intellectuals and (young and old) political opportunists who also identify with other spent ideological forces such as the "Middle Ages, the Old South, the glorious free market of the 19th Century, the 1950s etc."

Of all of the successful politicians of the right-"Nixon, McCarthy, George Wallace, Jesse Helms, Ronald Reagan-not one came out of the conservative movement," he claims. To be successful politically, politicians must deal with the real issues of mass immigration, the erosion of the national industrial base and the destruction of the middle class. Instead, fusionist conservatism is preoccupied with their "pet abstractions" of liberty, national security, and the Judeo-Christian tradition. They may be "fine" but they are politically irrelevant. Paleoconservatism presumably requires a politics not built on the ephemeral abstractions of the later but on the deep social resentments of the shunned European natives, the off-shore displaced industrial workers, and technology-dislocated lower middle class white collar workforce. Truly, whether he represents his Chronicles colleagues or not, Mr. Francis makes a logical and comprehensive distinction between conservatism and paleoconservatism.

To his charge, fusionist conservatism must plead guilty. It does speak for abstractions like liberty, security and Judeo-Christian values. Yet, because we, like Aristotle, have a dual base in idealism and materialism, that is not all there is to our worldview. We might not even be as politically dead as Mr. Francis believes. He is flat wrong that none of the leaders he mentioned came out of the fusionist conservative movement. Ronald Reagan did as can be readily proven simply by reading him on the subject in the first article in the current edition of this journal. On the other hand, we actually opposed Nixon and Wallace. Moreover, we do have a mass base, even a class one-based upon the bourgeois middle, middle class values he deems so outdated. It is true it is a more ephemeral class than the fiercer ones of race, blood, ownership, culture, and political power he believes determine history. It is less well defined by institutions other than through the vote and it is more capricious--but it is a base that has proved remarkably persistent. Marx, so correct on so much, predicted its demise long ago but it, somehow, hangs on, old fashioned morality and all.

This middle, middle class has been weakened by the managerial classes of the welfare state, just as Alexis de Tocqueville predicted, but to us this is a tragedy that requires a remedy. It is true that fusionist conservatism has not been able to reverse the decline; but to claim that this is not our major concern is entirely wrongheaded. As Mr. Reagan put it, we want to cut budgets not so much to save money as to free our "citizens and communities," that is, to free middle class citizens and communities, "main street" citizens as he constantly insisted. Our middle class, if wounded, survives and can still be motivated to political victory as Mr. Reagan proved. It is Mr. Francis' industrial-smokestack middle class that is truly becoming passé, although we urge them to reach up and join the bourgeoisie. Our clumsy middle class tax cuts have this as their deeper motivation.

Yet, Mr. Francis is fundamentally correct. Reagan conservatism is a movement without deep roots in historical patterns of social grievance. If the creation of a new victim class to replace the Democratic one is the paleoconservative platform, we must reject it. We are committed to positive "abstractions" like liberty, security and the Judeo-Christian tradition. If these are incompatible with paleoconservatism, we must oppose it. If paleoconservatism is something else, as I suspect it might be for others who proclaim it, let us isolate the differences and let the debate begin. In fact, Western values are not abstractions but values deep within the bourgeois human heart, ones that flowered into the institutions of Western culture. Indeed, our faith tells us, they are deeper still, in every human heart, deeper even than race and class.

Individual hearts appear brittle compared to foundational social forces but, when they are grounded in sound values and institutions, they, not classes, determine history. These are not guaranteed success but, in fact, they have survived Greece and Rome, European cultural nationalism, the French, German and Soviet secular revolutions, and all the rest. They will survive globalism too. The job of fusionist conservatism is to lead that threatened middle, middle class in a manner that assures America remains one of the places on the planet where these bourgeois values persist in spite of the constant temptations to abandon them. If we are left childless as a result of that struggle, that would be a tragedy; but a lesser one than not making the struggle at all.


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ACU is taken it on themselves to re-build a new Conservative consensus in an age of phonycons at the National Review and the Weekly Standard.

Mr. Keene is certainly a Beltway guy, but I agree with his general aesthetics assessment in that I personally like to read Francis but rarely agree with him, and while I lean more libertarian than Fleming, I rarely disagree with his cultural critiques.

What Mr. Keene fails to account for is the re-emergence of the Old Right, of which Chronicles styled Paleoconservatism is only one part of, though by looking at Chronicles on its own, one would miss the entire critique and its relevance to modern American conservatism.

1 posted on 12/30/2003 6:56:38 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt
He lost alot of crediability when he opined that Spector was a good conservative.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 6:59:38 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Liz; EverFree; optimistically_conservative
Keene is doing the yeomen's work to expunge the phonycons and build some consensus on the 'Real Right.' The American Conservative Union's effort is worth following, and I suspect this article will generate some discussion between the paleo-right and the Mainstream Right-- but if you click on the other links, you will see that the American Conservative Union has said 'enough with all that' to the NR and WS editorial board--something we have seen play out on FR.

I post this article not because I agree entirely with Keene's critique, but for the purposes of discussion.

3 posted on 12/30/2003 7:00:41 AM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
Well, we'll just see how many Neo-cons there are at CPAC this year.

There were quite a few last year. Aside from the celebrity-worshippers.

4 posted on 12/30/2003 7:02:54 AM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self-Promotion)
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To: JohnGalt
"They poured out in hundreds of e-mail responses and a record number of "hits" to the American Conservative Union web site, demanding we publish a center-line fusionist conservative journal of opinion."

Uh-oh. I was afraid that this is what the ConservativeBattleground.org really was.

5 posted on 12/30/2003 7:05:09 AM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self-Promotion)
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To: JohnGalt
"Paleoconservatism presumably requires a politics not built on the ephemeral abstractions of the later but on the deep social resentments of the shunned European natives, the off-shore displaced industrial workers, and technology-dislocated lower middle class white collar workforce."

Keene has his head up his ass here. He TOTALLY IGNORES the outsourcing of IT and computer engineering (and other engineering disciplines, btw) jobs overseas. This is not "technology-dislocated lower middle class white collar workforce"

6 posted on 12/30/2003 7:12:00 AM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self-Promotion)
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To: KantianBurke
LOL

I read this article as a tacit admission that the Beltway Cons are willing to 'discuss' terms.
7 posted on 12/30/2003 7:14:40 AM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
I read this article as a tacit admission that the Beltway Cons are willing to 'discuss' terms.

I'm sure they're willing to talk, but talk is all. The new conservatives, fusionists, Reagan democrats, FDR republicans, or whatever you wish to call them made it fairly clear at the outset of this difference of opinion that it was their way or the highway. Their attacks on the paleo/libertarian factions were downright vicious.

I see more and more of the old party expressing support for the highway option. Probably not enough to offset the liberal independent crossovers, but hopefully enough to send a message that there's a whole lot of room on the conservative side of the beltway cons.

8 posted on 12/30/2003 7:30:10 AM PST by steve50 ("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
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To: JohnGalt
Modern American "conservatism" is gone in any meaningful political sense, last seen wandering the deserts of Iraq looking for WMD. As for cultural "conservatism", that coin has been dropped into the slots at Harrah's, gone as well.
9 posted on 12/30/2003 7:38:51 AM PST by junta
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To: JohnGalt
Thanks for the ping.

It would be very good for the "right" to have a voice on the non-neocon position that is positive, thoughtful and philosophical instead of accusatory and vindictive.

I have been disappointed in the recent years that the conservatives opposed to neocon influence in foreign policy have been an echo of Democrat criticism.

Certainly, both groups may oppose the current foreign policy, but both were presenting hyperbolic ad hominem arguments on a narrow position.

It is not Wolfowitz or Bolton making domestic policy decisions on the expansion of the welfare state in education, medicare, etc. Demonizing them is a waste of space, demonstrates little intellectualism or credibility.
10 posted on 12/30/2003 8:05:19 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (Nothing is as expensive as a free government service or subsidized benefit.)
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To: BlackElk
Ping!
11 posted on 12/30/2003 8:07:09 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: sauropod
Yeah. I think Keene is missing one of the elements of Conservatism--which is an active interest in promoting the well-being of others in Our Land, to manufacture a phrase.

Next he'll be telling all those IT and Mfg guys to get new careers (at age 50) in neuro-surgery. He's smoking the WSJ dope on this one.
12 posted on 12/30/2003 8:10:56 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: junta
Cute slice at Bill Bennett, who, BTW, was NEVER a solid cultural conservative, although he made a small fortune acting like one. (Notice that his "Virtues" does not include chastity???)

Anyway, I will argue that it is utterly impossible to claim Conservatism without the Judaeo-Christian tradition, IN FULL, as a touchstone.

Of course, that places the responsibility for right actions on all of us---something we'd really prefer not to have.
13 posted on 12/30/2003 8:14:40 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: sauropod
For that matter, Sauro, the $75-$125K/year+bonus manufacturing managers, production/inventory control managers, QC managers, purchasing managers, mfg.eng'g managers, and design managers for all those now-outsourced industrial products--they weren't Joe Lunchboxes, either.

But NOW they are. Story in this AM's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel (already posted by your humble servant) tells about a plastics tool/die maker who employed 12 before the RedChina machine ate him. Now he drives a cab, banko.
14 posted on 12/30/2003 8:19:36 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Small states don't allow the Wolfowitz's of the world set policies that include debt financed wars fought by teenage girls. The neocons as we know them are simply parasites to power, and cling on to whoever is writing the checks, thus when you say that Wolfowitz and Bolton don't set social policy, you ignore the general critique of the Old Right that warfare always leads to welfare (witness this past year) or vice versa,

But that is beside the point. I posted and pinged you to simply point out that there was someone in the Beltway that was actually sending out a feeler or two to us 'unpatriotic conservatives' in flyover country. ;)
15 posted on 12/30/2003 8:21:19 AM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
I posted and pinged you to simply point out that there was someone in the Beltway that was actually sending out a feeler or two to us 'unpatriotic conservatives' in flyover country. ;)

And I appreciate that.

Small states don't allow the Wolfowitz's of the world set policies that include debt financed wars .... you ignore the general critique of the Old Right that warfare always leads to welfare ....

This can be a valid position if you can articulate the risks and costs of when war is necessary and not going to war. Articulating a Canadian policy of military readiness and isolationism is a loser.

fought by teenage girls

This is always a loser.

The neocons as we know them are simply parasites to power, and cling on to whoever is writing the checks, thus when you say that Wolfowitz and Bolton don't set social policy,

It is easy to label anyone involved in politics as a parasite to power. Again, ad hominem and irrelevant. fought by teenage girls.

16 posted on 12/30/2003 8:35:14 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (Nothing is as expensive as a free government service or subsidized benefit.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
I have been disappointed in the recent years that the conservatives opposed to neocon influence in foreign policy have been an echo of Democrat criticism.

Certainly, both groups may oppose the current foreign policy, but both were presenting hyperbolic ad hominem arguments on a narrow position.

It is not Wolfowitz or Bolton making domestic policy decisions on the expansion of the welfare state in education, medicare, etc. Demonizing them is a waste of space, demonstrates little intellectualism or credibility.

As a "paleo-conservative" who resents having to describe himself thus (I'm just conservative, if you ask me), I tend to agree with your sentiment. There are positive ways to frame the intellectual debate - for instance, Republican support of free trade is based on a simple but profound misunderstanding of the difference between trade and division of labor; for certainly, the neo-cons don't desire the erosion of our capital supply - they are just confused into supporting policies that have that effect.

The problem is that this difference cannot be misunderstood by the intellectuals who promote free trade: they are without excuse, and they need to be challenged. I don't think, however, that obsessing on the relationship between neo-cons and Israel, as some on the paleo side for some reason do, is particularly productive in terms of overcoming neo-con ideology. Which, let's face is, is rooted in a hybrid between Jeffersonian radicalism and libertarian utopianism. I say that meaning no ill-will towards fans of Jefferson or Ayn Rand: I note merely that their philosophies (particularly the libertarians) are cut of a different mold than the conservatism upon which our entire system was built.

And with regard to Israel, it is not inconsequential that one of the cornerstones of neoconservative thought is the fundamental assumption that somehow, we owe the current state of Israel billions of US Taxpayer dollars and the full support of our military, just because Judaism gave birth to Christianity. Having noted that however I don't see much point in making it a Jewish conspiracy issue - here I think otherwise sensible conservatives like Pat Buchanan maybe need to hit the reset button and focus on the economic issues. For here I think there is an tremendous opportunity for "paleo" cons to bring to light some general principles of political economy that have been forgotten, to our detriment. Nothing short of a treatise challenging conventional wisdom is needed: but again, this need not be an antagonistic thing. Let us assume all who call themselves conservative believe themselves to be earnestly defending something worth conserving, and sort it out like gentlemen (and gentlewomen).

I think there are so many misunderstandings between conservativism's various factions - economic, political, social, etc. - on so many levels, a good, old-fashioned, duke-em-out debate really is needed in the "conservative movement" such as it is.

17 posted on 12/30/2003 8:36:09 AM PST by Publius Maximus (Compassionate Conservatism: Profligate Liberal Spending With A Conservative Rhetorical Twist)
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To: optimistically_conservative
A centrist or a moderate in politics is a parasite to power. The neocons are radical, but part of the radical center; the neocons on the right favor bombing countries in the Middle East (see Weekly Standard), where as the neocons on the left (see New Republic) favor bombing Europeans.

While debating the benefits of attacking Ebuiqusitan versus Elrabia can be debated, debt financing and a feminized armed forces cannot be simply set aside simply because you don't wish to debate in the big picture-- If the merits of human calculus one way or the other are the only basis of making a decision I dare say that a single American life cannot be risked to play out the fantasy's some elite university egghead discussion group that treats the world as a Risk board, simply because they were too skinny and girlish to play football or hockey.

Until the Beltway Right owns up to their responsibility in the current mess (be it women on the front line, or welfare that always follows warfare) the paleo-right will continue to see the Mainstream Right as intellectually dishonest--you can dislike the aesthetics of my critique all you like, but the point stands.


Now, I posted this article, I gave a little ground, and the best I got from you was a mild critique on the neo's?

Your team will have to do better to play in our sandbox, something less than a formal apology for the Medicare disaster, but more than a 'ah shucks.'
18 posted on 12/30/2003 8:45:39 AM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: Publius Maximus
Thank you. I agree with much of that. The battleground really is for what JohnGalt describes as the MainStream Right. There are non-neocon ideals that can appeal to these conservatives, and should be presented to them in a non-fanatic way.

Criticizing support for a state under seige by Islamic fanatics is probably a good way to confuse, if not turn off, the MainStream Right.

Telling the MainStream Right they are traitors to conservatism is also not a good way to reach out to them.

The targets of conservatives within the MainStream Right are the size of the entitlement programs, the over-federalization of crime, the seperation and balance of our branches of government (power of the judiciary and what to do about it), balance of federalism as a global superpower/hegemon.

We should certainly point out historical context for the values, and restraints, underlying our Constitution - but they must be provided with application to current context.

Oh well, I'm really more interested in being a consumer of this debate than a provider.
19 posted on 12/30/2003 8:48:16 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (Nothing is as expensive as a free government service or subsidized benefit.)
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To: JohnGalt
If the merits of human calculus one way or the other are the only basis of making a decision I dare say that a single American life cannot be risked to play out the fantasy's some elite university egghead discussion group that treats the world as a Risk board, simply because they were too skinny and girlish to play football or hockey.

Again, more ad hominem - Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives.

One of the main problems you have debating using ad hominem concerning military issues is that I don't fit your neocon chickenhawk pigeon-holed categorization. Therefore, your position lacks any credibility from my view and many others. You are welcome to continue using it, but it is dishonest and met with complete dismissal because of my personal experience over a long period of time. If you want to debate without the ad hominem, I will gladly participate.

Now, I posted this article, I gave a little ground, and the best I got from you was a mild critique on the neo's?

You got what was relevant to the arguments you presented. In fact, I offered more than was relevant as a cheerleader for a more thoughtful and positive conservative critique of "neoconservatism."

Your team will have to do better to play in our sandbox, something less than a formal apology for the Medicare disaster, but more than a 'ah shucks.'

I don't have a team except for the one that is sworn to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I owe you nothing more, or less.

20 posted on 12/30/2003 9:08:08 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (Nothing is as expensive as a free government service or subsidized benefit.)
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