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Conservative Leader calls Dean Dean Too 'Mentally Unstable' to Be President
Talon News ^ | January 1, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 01/01/2004 9:19:32 AM PST by nwrep

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To: nwrep
Well, yes, Dean is a nut job. But after reading this article, I have to conclude that William J. Murray is a sanctimonious idiot.

This is the absolute WORST argument not to support Dean that could possibly be made. And on top of that, Murray holds the Republicans responsible for Dean. He even invites Christian conservatives to stay home for fear that if Bush is reelected, Cheney's lesbian daughter will get married to a lesbian partner in the White House! Good grief.
52 posted on 01/01/2004 10:44:21 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nwrep
fear the possibility of a President Howard Dean.

ROTFLOL!!!!!

There's six weeks between election and inaugaration day.

Just eneough time to sell my house and move to the Bahamas.

53 posted on 01/01/2004 10:48:33 AM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: seamole
Dukakis and Dean. On the emotional scale, polar opposites of the first order. Dukakis always put me to sleep. At least Dean is entertaining. The fact remains, Bush will kick the crap out of Dean.LOL
54 posted on 01/01/2004 10:49:17 AM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: cajungirl
You know the point where al gore lost the election, when it became obvious he was unhinged?

Obviously not enough, because alot of people still walked to a booth a pulled the lever for him.

55 posted on 01/01/2004 10:51:12 AM PST by riri
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To: nwrep
Medved said it yesterday too.
56 posted on 01/01/2004 10:51:24 AM PST by tubavil
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To: nwrep
Mentally unstable? That's putting it mildly. ;-)

He'd legislate and tax us into oblivion if he had his way.
57 posted on 01/01/2004 10:52:09 AM PST by pixmo
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To: Cicero
I sometimes wonder if some of these "helpful" conservatives are really on the Rat payroll.
58 posted on 01/01/2004 10:53:04 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Common Tator
Tator, I always apply the maxims you taught me when I am looking at political discourse.

As you said, this is appealing to the most radical of the base. It will send the middle people running for the hills. And we need those middle people's votes.

You said it much better than I could, but we are in 100% agreement on this article.

Thanks for the reply and explanation!

59 posted on 01/01/2004 10:55:25 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
He is hot-tempered, arrogant, a liar, and willing to ditch any previously held position in order to get the nomination

Same 'qualities' our former impeached POTUS was blessed with.

60 posted on 01/01/2004 11:00:36 AM PST by Anticommie
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To: Mr. Mojo
Clearly "it gets worse" refers to HD stating he would not get involved in the children's religious decisions, not in their decision to become Jewish. The sentence that Murray "lamented" was about Dean's lack of involvement, not the children's choice.

Unless one is just looking to be offended.
61 posted on 01/01/2004 11:02:24 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Tag----------------- <==line)
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To: Anticommie
Quite correct. Dean is not as charming, however, so he isn't as effective at it.
62 posted on 01/01/2004 11:03:50 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: G.Mason
I disagree with GOPers mouthing off about any of the Dem candidates at this point in time.

The in its current form, the Democratic Party is self destructing before our very eyes. The statements made on a daily basis by Dean, Kerry, Gephardt, etc. are doing far more damage to them and their party than anything we could ever do or say.

They are digging their own holes and making their own nooses. IMO, The best thing for us to do now is to keep handing them the shovels and rope.
63 posted on 01/01/2004 11:07:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (If I stay on topic for more than 2 posts something is wrong. Alert the authorities.)
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To: cajungirl
You are wrong again, nothing is over the top with Liberals! Besides, Dean is Crazy! Stating the truth is okay.
64 posted on 01/01/2004 11:31:14 AM PST by fish hawk (John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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To: cajungirl; All
Hey, I thought this piece was satire - seriously. I know it wasn't posted under humor but I didn't think these were the quotes of a "real" conservative leader.
65 posted on 01/01/2004 11:45:54 AM PST by Let's Roll (Support our brave troops as they protect us from evil.)
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To: nwrep
This guy MURRAY is as bad as Dean. He's as egomaniacally
self-fascinated with his own opinions as Dean.
66 posted on 01/01/2004 11:58:07 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: Common Tator
"You are as ignorant of what it takes to win an election as Howard Dean."

With one difference. I'm not running for office.

Here's a headline for you ....... I, as an American, have a right to my opinion, as you, and Marple have.

Your comments have been duly noted, and filed.

67 posted on 01/01/2004 12:19:49 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: eddie willers
Better plan for Clark.

I've long said I fear Dean. Clark would scare me as well. I'll be so glad when this election is over, and Bush is still in the WH!

I just quit my job, and will have lots of time to work on his campaign.

68 posted on 01/01/2004 12:28:46 PM PST by mombonn
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To: cajungirl
"Whoa Bubba!"

Whoa Bubba?

"Our rhetoric is important."

Our rhetoric is important? Well golly gee whiz, you've convinced me.

69 posted on 01/01/2004 12:34:06 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: Common Tator
Dr. Dean and Vietnam vet Kerry are digging holes.....please don't interfere !!!
70 posted on 01/01/2004 12:35:04 PM PST by Hidgy (LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC)
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To: nwrep
I've heard William J. Murray preach. He's the son of Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Nutcases both.
71 posted on 01/01/2004 12:41:38 PM PST by mombonn
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To: shanscom
The Deans and how they handle their religious upbringiing of their children is none of our business. To bring it up in a campaign is not appropriate.
72 posted on 01/01/2004 12:47:27 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: riri
We won that election, we didn't get 100 per cent. If Gore had not shown his colors in the debate it might have been different.
73 posted on 01/01/2004 12:51:25 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: G.Mason
No need to get snippy. I was pointing out that you were being disrespectful of Marple by calling her foolish in a snide way. We need to converse here, not call people names when they disagree. And to purposely use my statements about political discourse, and that is what we are talking about, to be snide to me doesn't help a bit.
74 posted on 01/01/2004 12:54:22 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Hidgy
Ditto!
75 posted on 01/01/2004 12:55:49 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
Is there a Republican for Dean committee? I think he is the best candidate for Bush to beat
76 posted on 01/01/2004 12:55:59 PM PST by woofie
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To: cajungirl
"No need to get snippy. I was pointing out that you were being disrespectful of Marple by calling her foolish in a snide way. We need to converse here, not call people names when they disagree. And to purposely use my statements about political discourse, and that is what we are talking about, to be snide to me doesn't help a bit."

Snide to you? Me? A mere Bubba?

BTW, I called no one "names".

You must have me confused with someone who cares what you think.

77 posted on 01/01/2004 1:03:12 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: nwrep
"Howard Dean is too "mentally unstable" to become president "

Doesn't that apply to all Demorats?
79 posted on 01/01/2004 1:24:29 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: shanscom
"That's what we oughta snicker at. The husband was willing to reject Jesus Christ as his savior, and the wife was willing to throw her religion and heritage to the trash bin, in order to make a "compromise." That right there says all we need to know about Howard Dean."

I guess Dean's brand of "Christianity" wasn't attractive to either of his children.

But you hit the nail on the head about the liberal mindset. Principles are always secondary to "getting along" and "fitting in".
80 posted on 01/01/2004 2:33:39 PM PST by I still care
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To: Miss Marple
You know, this over-the-top rhetoric from our side doen't help. While I privately wonder about Dean, it is easier to say he is "tempermentally unsuited" to be president. That allegation is easier to prove and doesn't make us sound like wild-eyed fanatics.

True, but you really do have to wonder about a guy who when recently asked to name his closest living relative or associate in the armed forces, named his brother, who is

a) dead, and
b) was never in the armed forces at any point in his life.

This guy at times does seem to show characteristics of not being "all there".

81 posted on 01/01/2004 4:00:13 PM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
Agreed. However, it is better to choose less inflammatory rhetoric and let the voters come to their own conclusions.
82 posted on 01/01/2004 4:22:57 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cajungirl
The Deans and how they handle their religious upbringiing of their children is none of our business. To bring it up in a campaign is not appropriate.

Exactly. There are a hundred and one reasons besides religion that Dean should not be President, and I'm sure Pres. Bush will touch on most of them. Americans don't like to see religious arguments from their leaders, let Dean make the case that GWB is too religious, if he's stupid enough to try that.

I'm reminded of the way that GWB handled the "restoring the dignity" issue of his 2000 campaign. When a debate questioner tried to trap him into lumping Gore in with the Clinton-Lewinsky mess, Bush just answered that he was sure that Gore loved and respected his own family, and let it go at that. It spoke volumes about the man who Gore ran with, twice.

For me, the article at the top of this thread went over the loony line with the part about Bush dying during a marathon! He may as well have posited another killer peanut!

83 posted on 01/01/2004 4:51:51 PM PST by hunter112
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To: Boundless
Boundless, I agree. Hitlery's gambit all along has been to insure that the nomination cannot be won on the first ballot. Then the bitch steps in "to save the party from itself!"

Granted the 9 dwarfs are all rectal cavity liberals but it does seem amazing that without even one state straw poll having been taken, Dean is a lock! I suspect we will see some dramatic changes as the primaries unfold, just enough competition to insure that Dean is not nominated on the first ballot.

The Demonrats will smell blood in the water and jump the SS Deano faster than Superman farts! Step in the Cattle Futures Bribe Queen and I am willing to bet she is nominated unanimously on the 2nd ballot. Dean won't even know what him. Pure Clinton all the way!

84 posted on 01/01/2004 5:17:09 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Doc Savage
> Hitlery's gambit all along has been to insure that
> the nomination cannot be won on the first ballot.


Well, perhaps not "all along", but certainly since she
declined to declare and enter key early primaries.

By the way, have any of the mainstream political pundits
(any end of spectrum) been gabbing about this convention
gambit? This seems obvious enough that I'm surprised I
haven't heard/read it anywhere.

Then there's the issue of the Las Vegas line on who would
be Hillary's running mate:
- the Hero of the Balkans?
- Carly Fiorina (HP CEO)?
- Al Gore :-)
85 posted on 01/01/2004 5:36:30 PM PST by Boundless
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To: G.Mason
Now if you don't care what I think, why are you here. My quote of Whoa Bubba was what Laura Bush says to GWB when he is getting carried away. And you sir, are not very polite.
86 posted on 01/01/2004 5:42:17 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
..."I was shocked to watch [Dean] at a rally in San Francisco when he growled out loud that he wasn't going to listen to any preachers," Murray recalled in the e-mail. "Then in New Hampshire during an interview on Christmas Day with the Boston Globe, he stated that he would emphasize his Christianity as soon as he began to campaign in the South. What?"...

Why are you shocked, Mr Murray? You were expecting principle? Liberals will say or do anything to advance themselves. If there was a Baal vote, Dean would be sacrificing babies.

87 posted on 01/01/2004 7:14:04 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: nwrep
All he needs to do is self destruct at any number of debates against GWB after he gets the nod as the Dem nominee. With that wide media exposure more American's will take notice at his numerous gaffes.
88 posted on 01/02/2004 12:12:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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