Stop Immigration Petition

Raed it, select and participate. Personally. I oppose illegal immigration, and support legal immigration.

I don't think we should eliminate high-tech visas. People like Albert Einstein, Enrico Fermi, and Werner Von Braun were recent immigrants whose knowledge gave us a technological edge over the rest of the world.

Butfill it out, circulate it, and let those s.o.b.s in Washington know how WE feel about their giving away the store to illegal invaders.

1 posted on 01/02/2004 5:30:50 AM PST by ZULU

I'd prefer a primary challenger, but this shopping protest will do for now.

2 posted on 01/02/2004 5:34:53 AM PST by dagnabbit (Suport Amnesty 2007 ! For illegals arriving after Bush's 04 amnesty. It's never too early to care.)

The name "Stop Imigration" is highly inadvisable.

The name "Stop Illegal Immigration" should be used instead.

3 posted on 01/02/2004 5:38:00 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; still, we only meditate and take herbal medicines)

To: AmericanInTokyo

The name "Stop Imigration" is highly inadvisable.

The name "Stop Illegal Immigration" should be used instead.

Make that "Stop Illegal Aliens."
If they're Illegal, they aren't immigrants; they're tresspassers and burglars.
The January 12th boycott is also trivial and unfocused, selecting targets that have nothing to do with Illegals. It is futile symbolism, and will symbolize futility.

4 posted on 01/02/2004 5:47:30 AM PST by Sabertooth (Have a Happy New Year, Freepers)

The January 12th boycott is also trivial and unfocused, selecting targets that have nothing to do with Illegals. It is futile symbolism, and will symbolize futility.

I might like your plan better. Do you have a plan or only negativity? At least the stop-shop is SOMETHING. The elected need to hear a message loud and clear. They ignore the electorate if they don't see real anger. Something is better than whining and doing nothing. Until the anti-illegal-immigration effort becomes an effective lobbying organization (like NRA, AARP, NEA, etc.), we will continue to see a million new illegals each year--and amnesty bills every few years.

5 posted on 01/02/2004 5:55:58 AM PST by TomGuy

Stop

America is sliding fast,
It’s time for us to save her.
We’re letting people from outside,
Cripple and enslave her.
Illegals from a thousand lands,
Just walk across our borders.
It’s time to say, “We’ve had Enough”,
And issue our new orders.
Stop the waste and give aways,
To those who have no right.
To be here in the first place,
This problem we must fight.
I’m sure you know we have no choice,
Our Government is lame.
Republicans and Democrats,
Have now become the same.
So what I ask from each of you,
Get up out of that chair.
Write or call your public servants,
Your vote put them there.
Demand they act and act today,
To save our land, our nation.
It has to stop and stop today,
Illegal Immigration.

Conspiracy Guy 10/29/03

6 posted on 01/02/2004 5:58:43 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)

Personally. I oppose illegal immigration, and support legal immigration.

BUMP to the illegal/legal differential.

apologies to Charles Shultz

7 posted on 01/02/2004 6:02:36 AM PST by putupon (Does "undocumented" just mean you don't have enough green to purchase a card?)

I might like your plan better. Do you have a plan or only negativity?

An incoherent plan isn't positive.

At least the stop-shop is SOMETHING. The elected need to hear a message loud and clear.

"Stop shop" won't be a message; "paint our faces blue" wouldn't be one either.

They ignore the electorate if they don't see real anger. Something is better than whining and doing nothing. Until the anti-illegal-immigration effort becomes an effective lobbying organization (like NRA, AARP, NEA, etc.), we will continue to see a million new illegals each year--and amnesty bills every few years.

Have you ever seen my posts on the subject of Illegal Aliens?

8 posted on 01/02/2004 6:14:14 AM PST by Sabertooth (Have a Happy New Year, Freepers)

Thank you for posting this. I hope that our elected officials get the message.

9 posted on 01/02/2004 6:16:41 AM PST by Howie66 (Lead, follow or git the hell out of the way!)

"Stop Mass Immigration", "Immigration Time Out Now", or "Immigration Pause Now" would be my picks.

This focus on the paperwork accompanying the ongoing massive third-world population transfers avoids the heart of the issue and allows too much wiggle room for weasel politicians.

That said, I'd settle for the scrapping of the latest Bush amnesty attempt as the best that can be achieved for the time being.

Suport Amnesty 2007 !
For Illegals Arriving After
Bush's 2004 Amnesty

The Next Next Amnesty -
It's never too early to care.

10 posted on 01/02/2004 6:25:00 AM PST by dagnabbit (Suport Amnesty 2007 ! For illegals arriving after Bush's 04 amnesty. It's never too early to care.)

I saw 18 points on illegal immigration the other day.

12 posted on 01/02/2004 6:33:16 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)

Suport Amnesty 2007 !
For Illegals Arriving After
Bush's 2004 Amnesty

Okie Dokie - 2003 Blanket Amnesty. Over ten million illegal Mexicans get citizenship and vote.

2007 - Blanket Amnesty. Another twelve million illegal Mexicans get citizenship and vote.

2011 - Mexico moves it's capital to Omaha, Nebraska.

13 posted on 01/02/2004 6:36:24 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)

2011 - Mexico moves it's capital to Omaha, Nebraska.

For the Children

14 posted on 01/02/2004 6:37:46 AM PST by dagnabbit (Suport Amnesty 2007 ! For illegals arriving after Bush's 04 amnesty. It's never too early to care.)

I hope that our elected officials get the message.

If John Q. Public ever "gets it", then the DC sleazeballs will.

Until that, the stupid stuff won't end.

15 posted on 01/02/2004 6:38:00 AM PST by putupon (Does "undocumented" just mean you don't have enough green to purchase a card?)

I saw 18 points on illegal immigration the other day.

OK, I'll repost them again.
The first order of business, of course, is to enforce existing laws on the books against Illegals and those who employ them. Politicians must be held to account when they pander otherwise.
Then...

1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.

2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.

3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.

4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.

5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.

6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.

7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).

8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.

9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.

10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.

11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.

12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.

13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.

14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.

15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.

16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.

17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.

18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earning, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.

The list above is by no means comprehensive, and can be adopted piecemeal or in a single package. That said, incrementalism is probably going to be the way to go, especially politically.
These measures would provide a little carrot and lots of stick for Illegals already here to get themselves out. Some of them will need to be tested in the courts, which is another reason to adopt them piecemeal, so that an injunction against omnibus legislation can't stall the whole effort.
We ought to be looking initially at easy, politically safe legislation, like the new accounting for family reunification, Border Security/IRS cooperation, English speaking citizenship requirements, and a few others. Our politicians are a trembling, timid bunch, and need to gain a little self-confidence before they'll tackle more difficult issues.
Note a few things that aren't on my list: troops or walls on the border. I think they are a futile diversion from cost effective solutions. The best possible wall at the border is to let foreigners know that we respect our sovereignty, and they had best do the same.
Note also that I don't call for an immigration moratorium, though others do. I think their position is within the respectable mainstream of a dialogue about immigration, and it's possible I might change my mind later, but I am not currently persuaded that an outright moratorium is necessary.
The main problem is multimillion-strong mass of Illegals, and the secondary problem is how we currently select legal immigrants for rapid assimilation into American society. I believe my proposals adequately address both situations, but there is certainly room for debate on the back end.
Note also that I have a guest worker program that is actually honest and responsible, and not an Amnesty by another name. My program would ensure that law-abiding foreigners are background-checked before entry, rather than rewarding lawbreaking Illegals after the fact.
All of the above could be adopted while allowing politicians so-inclined to chant the "compassionate conservatism" mantra.
A few final thoughts...
My proposals will cost money and require an expansion of the federal government in certain areas. However, this expense and expansion is all well within the legitimate, Constitutional responsibilities of the federal government. There will be a greater expense initially, as we ramp up to deal with the backlog of Illegals, but a number of my proposals are at least partially self-funding. Also, success in these endeavors will eventually reduce the need for them, and as many Illegals would leave on their own.
In contrast, there would be also be an increased expense and expansion of the government if there is an Amnesty, but increases and expansions which would only serve to reward the lawlessness of Illegals and the cowardice of politicians, thereby encouraging more of the same, unless there are also enforcement proposals like mine in the American Interior.
But, if we strengthened and enforced our laws consistently within our borders, then we don't need the phantom solution of Amnesty anyway.

16 posted on 01/02/2004 6:42:12 AM PST by Sabertooth (Have a Happy New Year, Freepers)

To: Eaker; Xenalyte; dix; TexasCowboy

17 posted on 01/02/2004 6:53:16 AM PST by TheMom

Yeh, but it is words....

Until a few millions of voting US citizens tell their Representative, Senators and President "stop the illegals or you are retired", it ain't gonna happen.

Right now, Rep. Tancredo and Sen. Byrd are about the only 2 elected in the entire Federal government who are vocally trying to stop the illegals and amnesty.

Even Rove sent out a message to RNC members before the 2002 elections that "immigration was off the table". [Meaning -- if a Republican running wanted RNC money and assistance, don't mention immigration.]

Until there are marches or something to get the attention of the elected that MILLIONS of voters are watching, we will give more illegals and more amnesties. It is politically expedient for the politicians to support that.

Had Sen Byrd not stopped the amnesty 245(i) bill -- on a procedural technicality -- it would now be law. That is how close the bill came to being passed.

18 posted on 01/02/2004 6:54:22 AM PST by TomGuy

Thanks again. Have you sent them off yet?

17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.
Ahhh... Aztlan. Beautiful Aztlan.

19 posted on 01/02/2004 6:54:42 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)

Thanks, D.
Signed and sent - all of 'em!

20 posted on 01/02/2004 7:04:59 AM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)

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