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Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
The Detroit News ^ | 01/04/04 | Pete Waldmeir

Posted on 01/04/2004 7:32:06 PM PST by Kieri

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Just when I was wondering how much air one head could hold, along comes our rookie governor quoting scripture on television, piously questioning if some religious conservatives who would trim aid to the state’s poor and disadvantaged “are really living out the faith that they profess.”


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: granholm
Looks like Howierd Dean isn't the only liberal Bible-thumper these days...
1 posted on 01/04/2004 7:32:06 PM PST by Kieri
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2 posted on 01/04/2004 7:34:07 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: Kieri
So, when Gov. Granholm asks "What would Jesus do?", He answers, "Raise taxes".
3 posted on 01/04/2004 7:39:32 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Kieri
>>that some “so-called Christians” preferred to cut money from some social services rather than yield on the $77 million state income tax cut....and gave it a thump.

Citing “those who cloak themselves in a cape of religiosity” as some of “the biggest cutters,” Granholm quotes chapter and verse where the Lord says, “Whatsoever you do to the least of these, so also you do unto me.” <<

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day- Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.
Get it through your head Ms. Granholm you "better than thou" heathen.


4 posted on 01/04/2004 7:41:00 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: Kieri
I caught that. Who vetoed the PBA ban???
5 posted on 01/04/2004 7:42:47 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Every man dies. Not every man really lives")
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To: Kieri
Citing "those who cloak themselves in a cape of religiosity" as some of "the biggest cutters," Granholm quotes chapter and verse where the Lord says, "Whatsoever you do to the least of these, so also you do unto me."
Whatsoever you do, Granholm.

Does it still count if you give other people's money?
6 posted on 01/04/2004 7:44:38 PM PST by Asclepius (karma vigilante)
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To: Kieri
**not to mention a lifelong practicing Catholic, who says she personally agrees with her church’s stand on abortion, but believes that it’s OK for anyone else who might want to use it to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.**

But her stand here is not Catholic and does not represent the Catholic faith in any way.
7 posted on 01/04/2004 7:47:14 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: netmilsmom
Wow... you don't like her much, do you? :)
8 posted on 01/04/2004 7:47:16 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Freedom is a package deal - with it comes responsibilities and consequences.)
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To: Kieri
"Do NOT take the Lord's name in vain" coes to mind here.

I always thought this Commandment had nothing to do with cursing but telling someone that Jesus would be on the side of the devil in some things.

9 posted on 01/04/2004 7:47:19 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Kieri
She broke a $200 million deal with Plymouth philanthropist Bob Thompson that would have built 15 charter high schools in Detroit. More recently she has promised to do whatever the majority of Detroit Democrat lawmakers want, so she may not sign legislation permitting a March election to decide who runs Detroit schools.

Wow...it's like Jennifer could be "dancing on the trapdoors of hell" by keeping those poor, black kids locked in hideous schools that teach them NOTHING!!!

10 posted on 01/04/2004 7:49:33 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Kieri
Charity is not given at the point of a gun nor is it by the coercion of governments. Charity is meant to come from the individual. If charity were the result of government taxes, then the USSR would have been the most Biblical of them all.
11 posted on 01/04/2004 7:51:04 PM PST by OpusatFR (Al Dean and Howard Gore, se)
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To: Kieri
Did we not have a situation recently where a governor wanted to raise taxes and said it was the Christian thing to do?
12 posted on 01/04/2004 7:53:27 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Kieri
Citing “those who cloak themselves in a cape of religiosity” as some of “the biggest cutters,” Granholm quotes chapter and verse where the Lord says, “Whatsoever you do to the least of these, so also you do unto me.”

I don't know, Thou Shalt Not Steal comes to mind. Granholm needs to remember that the money is forcibly taken from citizens against their will and by threat of jail.

13 posted on 01/04/2004 8:02:05 PM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: netmilsmom
I believe you are correct to see that "so called" christians who transform the Social Gospel into a Government run gospel are the worst kind of CINOs..

I believe Jesus taught.. that charity was a Personal Thing and not up to the goverment. So how did his teachings get so hijacked.. into a goverment commanded responsibility?.. He actually had contempt for the ruling Roman government as far as I can see.

He also had contempt for the ruling religious government who put heavy burdens and requirments on the people and taught them crap religion.

14 posted on 01/04/2004 8:02:18 PM PST by glowworm
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To: Kieri
Can't recall anywhere in the Gospels where Our Lord demands that taxes be levied for redistribution by a government bureaucracy.
15 posted on 01/04/2004 8:07:04 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
>>Wow... you don't like her much, do you? :)<<

You noticed!

I actually helped put flyers on cars at churches during her campaign stating her very, very pro-abortion stance.
16 posted on 01/04/2004 8:14:16 PM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: OldFriend
Wasn't that Alabama?? Mississippi??
17 posted on 01/04/2004 8:25:22 PM PST by GeronL (The French just can't stop being French.)
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To: OpusatFR
I agree, and a tax cut that puts money in people's pockets...what's wrong with that???
18 posted on 01/04/2004 9:40:03 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Kieri
She also "cut" the budget by doubling my Professional Engineer's license fee.

What kind of politician would bring a Bible to a press session? Answer: One who already knows the nature of the questions she'll be asked.

19 posted on 01/04/2004 10:14:19 PM PST by yooper
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To: Kieri
Citing “those who cloak themselves in a cape of religiosity” as some of “the biggest cutters,” Granholm quotes chapter and verse where the Lord says, “Whatsoever you do to the least of these, so also you do unto me.”

Jesus said "whatever YOU do", not "whatever the government does", or "whatever Rome does". The Bible puts the responsibility on the individual, not the State.

20 posted on 01/05/2004 1:30:44 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Kieri
Gov. Jennifer Granholm?s lengthy, taped, year-end ?Off the Record? interview with veteran Lansing reporter Tim Skubick was scheduled to be shown today at 11:30 a.m. on WTVS-Channel 56 in Detroit, and on assorted other public TV outlets across the state. You can click on the Internet at http://wkar.org/offtherecord/ to see it.

What a stupid name for a broadcast interview, "Off the Record." Obviously it isn't.

Skubick calls the interview ?routine.? But when he asked Granholm if she found it ?interesting? that some ?so-called Christians? preferred to cut money from some social services rather than yield on the $77 million state income tax cut that was scheduled for Jan. 1 and delayed in an uneasy compromise until July 1, Granholm uncharacteristically picked up the Bible and gave it a thump.

Citing "those who cloak themselves in a cape of religiosity" as some of "the biggest cutters," Granholm quotes chapter and verse where the Lord says, "Whatsoever you do to the least of these, so also you do unto me."

But not the unborn who cannot even speak in their own defense...

21 posted on 01/05/2004 1:36:27 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane twin brother.)
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To: AmericaUnited
Jesus said "whatever YOU do", not "whatever the government does", or "whatever Rome does". The Bible puts the responsibility on the individual, not the State.

THANK YOU!

I always give Granholm credit for being a fabulous babe, but this is one of the ugliest things I have ever heard any high-ranking official say.

I don't have time to go into how tortured her citation is in reference to social spending by government, but it just kills me that someone who rode into office by rejecting her own supposed religious beliefs for political expediency can condemn her opponents for allegedly doing the exact same thing!

22 posted on 01/05/2004 1:55:19 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: BenLurkin
Can't recall anywhere in the Gospels where Our Lord demands that taxes be levied for redistribution by a government bureaucracy.

Jesus did say render unto Caeser what is Caeser's and render unto the Lord what is the Lord's.

Gronholm though does not seem to want to render unto the Lord what is His i.e. His right to determine when someone is alive and, the appointed days of that persons life.

Mel

23 posted on 01/05/2004 2:22:17 AM PST by melsec
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To: netmilsmom
netmils, this woman (granholm) is certifiable. I work for the state(michigan), and in the midst of recent budget cuts, layoffs and downsizing , she spent something like 5 to 10 million for a "stress reduction and healthier living" seminar for every employee in My department. It was instantly dubbed "don't worry , be happy" training by the staff. It was particularly galling to those of us who had to take pay cuts or grant contract concessions shortly before this. This training was preceded by a half hour taped address by Mz. Granholm who proceeded to blow sunshine up our butts . The address was full of liberalspeak buzzwords like "empowerment" "diversity", "shared vision", etc.and ended with Her saying that she wanted the state to be such a happy, well run place that other states would have (and I kid you not) "mitten envy" . had I been drinking My morning coffee whilst hearing this it most certainly have come shooting out my nose, so strong was my reaction. But My reaction would've gone unnoticed because all of a sudden the room sounded like the waiting lounge at a tourettes clinic. Apparently I wasn't the only one in the room whose b.s.'ometer pegged on that comment. I have spoken to both repubs and dems whom I work with and there is a consensus forming: this dame is a one- termer

Slainte,

CC

24 posted on 01/05/2004 2:40:34 AM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: AmericaUnited
If Coweird Dean can move the Book of Job to the New Testament, Granholm can change the words of Jesus.

The left has no compunction whatsoever of misrepresenting even the Bible for their own purposes.

25 posted on 01/05/2004 4:04:42 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Well, all I have to say is Thank You God she will not be back!
26 posted on 01/05/2004 6:20:31 AM PST by netmilsmom (RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: Celtic Conservative
I work for the state(michigan), and in the midst of recent budget cuts, layoffs and downsizing , she spent something like 5 to 10 million for a "stress reduction and healthier living" seminar for every employee in My department. It was instantly dubbed "don't worry , be happy" training by the staff. It was particularly galling to those of us who had to take pay cuts or grant contract concessions shortly before this. This training was preceded by a half hour taped address by Mz. Granholm who proceeded to blow sunshine up our butts . The address was full of liberalspeak buzzwords like "empowerment" "diversity", "shared vision", etc.and ended with Her saying that she wanted the state to be such a happy, well run place that other states would have (and I kid you not) "mitten envy" .

Talk about a small world...

My husband works for the State of Michigan too as a Trainer/Consultant and was also forced to endure the "Mitten Envy" speech. He told me about it and I posted it here some time ago. The woman is a total nitwit. Most state employees were hoping she'd fall off Big Mac during her Labor Day walk (which she ran, contrary to rules).

27 posted on 01/05/2004 6:29:39 AM PST by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: melsec
Jesus did not oppose paying taxes, correct.

My point is that Jesus never advocated collecting taxes.

28 posted on 01/05/2004 6:39:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: BenLurkin
Good one. I like that.

Mel

29 posted on 01/05/2004 9:05:32 AM PST by melsec
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