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Bush Would Give Illegal Workers Broad New Rights
The New York Times ^ | January 7, 2004 | ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 01/06/2004 8:20:50 PM PST by sarcasm

WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 — President Bush will propose a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration laws on Wednesday that could give legal status to millions of undocumented workers in the United States, senior administration officials said Tuesday night.

Under Mr. Bush's proposal, which effectively amounts to an amnesty program for illegal immigrants with jobs in the United States, an undocumented worker could apply for temporary worker status here for an unspecified number of years, with all the employee benefits, like minimum wage and due process, accorded to those legally employed.

Workers who are approved would be permitted to travel freely between the United States and their home countries, the officials said, and would also be permitted to apply for a green card granting permanent residency in the United States.

Administration officials said that Mr. Bush would also propose increasing the number of green cards issued each year, which is now about 140,000, but they did not provide a specific number. The administration officials, who briefed reporters in a conference call on Tuesday night, said only that Mr. Bush would ask for a "reasonable increase."

Mr. Bush's proposal, one administration official said, would "match willing workers with willing employers" and would "promote compassion" by fixing what one called "a broken system." The officials declined to call it an amnesty program.

Under the proposal, workers in other countries could also apply for guest worker status in the United States, provided there was no American to take the job.

But the president's plans are expected to face a tough fight in Congress, where conservative Republicans have said they consider programs like the one the president is proposing nothing more than amnesty for people who have broken the law.

The president's proposals were designed to appeal to Hispanic groups, a constituency that the White House is focusing on as Mr. Bush seeks re-election this year. The proposals are expected to be embraced by President Vicente Fox of Mexico, who has been lobbying for them for the past three years.

Mr. Bush is to meet with Mr. Fox at an economic summit next week in Monterrey, Mexico, where immigration will be a significant part of the agenda and Mr. Bush's proposals are likely to become a major focus.

Mr. Bush's proposal is closely modeled on legislation introduced last summer by Senator John McCain and Representatives Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, all Republicans from Arizona. The issue of illegal workers has been an important one there.

"We are ecstatic that they are addressing this," Mr. Flake said in a telephone interview on Tuesday night. "We've maintained all along that you have to deal with both sides of the issue — those who want to come to the country, and those who are here now. We're very happy to see a realistic approach. We deal with it daily, and we have to have a rational policy."

Mr. Bush's proposal is in some ways more generous to illegal workers than is Mr. Flake's bill. The legislation, for example, requires that a guest worker wait three years before applying for a green card. Under Mr. Bush's proposal, a worker could apply for a green card right away.

Mr. Bush's proposals apply to all illegal immigrants in the United States, which officials estimate at 8 million to 14 million people. About 60 percent are thought to be Mexican. No one is certain how many undocumented workers there are among all illegal immigrants, but Mr. Fox has said that some 3.5 million of the workers are Mexican.

Mr. Bush entered office with immigration reform at the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in the late summer of 2001 various guest worker proposals were under discussion by United States and Mexican officials. But the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that year led to increased concerns about the safety of America's borders and derailed the negotiations.

Under Mr. Bush's proposals, an undocumented worker and an employer would have to apply for the guest worker program hand in hand, with the employer serving as the sponsor for the worker. There would also be a fee to register for the program, but administration officials would not say how much that would be.

The plan also includes incentives for workers to return to their countries, like a promise of retirement benefits there based on income earned in the United States.

Critics of Mr. Bush's proposal noted that unless the White House sought, and obtained, a large increase in the number of green cards issued each year, many of the undocumented workers who apply under the president's program could face an extended wait — 10 to 20 years, by some estimates — for residency.

Administration officials acknowledge that the wait for a green card can take up to six years or longer, meaning that some guest workers who apply for green cards but do not receive them would face the prospect of being forced to leave the United States. In that case, critics of the proposal said Tuesday night, workers would be better off remaining illegal and staying indefinitely in the United States, rather than revealing themselves to immigration officials when they sign up for a program that may, these critics assert, lead to their deportation.

"They're asking people to sign up for a program that is more likely to ensure their departure than ensure their permanent residency," said Cecilia Munoz, a vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy organization.

Groups opposed to increased immigration also criticized the president's proposal. "It's an amnesty, no matter how much they dance around the fact," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center on Immigration Studies, a group that seeks to limit immigration. "It's legalizing illegal immigrants."

The White House, Mr. Krikorian said, "has been twisting itself in knots about using the word amnesty. They've had all of these ridiculous euphemisms, but illegal aliens get legal status, and that's an amnesty."

Other critics say that the guest worker program could lead to the exploitation of immigrant workers. "If you are dependent on an employer filing a petition on your behalf, that employer has a tremendous club over you," said one person briefed on the president's proposal.

But an administration official said that the plan would protect the rights of undocumented workers, "who now live in the shadows, and are fearful of coming out of the shadows."

A number of limited guest worker programs already exist in the United States, but they are designed for skilled technology workers, who typically come from India, China and Eastern Europe.

Mr. Bush will also argue, administration officials said, that his plan will make the country safer by giving the authorities a better idea of who is in the country and crossing its borders.


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1 posted on 01/06/2004 8:20:50 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Wow. Bush may manage to piss off both Conservatives and Hispanics with this brilliant move.
2 posted on 01/06/2004 8:23:27 PM PST by nwrep
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To: sarcasm
live in the shadows? you can find them in every town in the country standing on the corner near the dunkin donuts waiting for a pickup,
4 posted on 01/06/2004 8:24:10 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sarcasm
"Mr. Bush will also argue, administration officials said, that his plan will make the country safer by giving the authorities a better idea of who is in the country and crossing its borders."

I don't suppose that it has occured to Mr. Bush that, by giving illegals amnesty, he is encouraging lawlessness.

The stupidity of this proposal amazes me.

5 posted on 01/06/2004 8:24:39 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
bttt
6 posted on 01/06/2004 8:25:49 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: sarcasm
This is a STUPID idea!!!
7 posted on 01/06/2004 8:29:21 PM PST by CHATTAB
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To: sarcasm
Workers who are approved would be permitted to travel freely between the United States and their home countries, the officials said, and would also be permitted to apply for a green card granting permanent residency in the United States.

Now this is the part that enrages me. A person who wishes to emigrate to the United States is first granted legal conditional or permanent residency. They are issued green cards and considered lawful residents of the United States. After five years, they can apply for U.S. Citizenship.

This is the normal immigration process that other nationalities have to follow. The difference is that the "other" people have to wait in their home country sometimes for years before they are issued an immigration visa.

Somebody please tell me why Mexico gets this golden key to the United States. Absolutely no other nation on the face of the earth is given this right. Do any of you have friends/relatives who have been waiting years for an immigrant visa?

I will never forgive this man for what he has done to my country! Our only chance now is to hound our congress critters without mercy until they shoot this down.

8 posted on 01/06/2004 8:40:06 PM PST by navyblue
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To: Reactionary; mrustow; Sabertooth; Tancredo Fan
Hopefully he doesn't care if it passes, and he's only doing some precampaign fundraising from the industries that profit from this.


But anyway, the Republicarats have always been for this. It's the most profitable position contributions-wise. And some expressly embrace the agenda that depressing the wage bargaining power of the American middle and lower classes - which si profitable, short-term, to industries that can't export jobs.

one of the gimmicks is having a "job" in the US. You can bet the house (you might as well) that there will be no oversight, or possible way to monitor the veracity of the businesses actually needing illegals, and unable to hire citizens or residents.

The "hispanic vote" is just a cover story. Hispanic citizens don't vote if we allow illegals or not. It's just a white liberal fantasy, adopted by the cheap-labor lobby and politicians who want to seem humane...it's actually an inhumane policy to actual citizens and residents.

You can count on this one coming up: driver's licenses for illegals, now legal. And driving job, trucking, eg, will be decreased to wages only non-home owning, non-family persons can manage. Naturally the transportation industry is giving big bucks for open borders, as are the hotel industry, etc.
9 posted on 01/06/2004 8:42:38 PM PST by Shermy
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To: sarcasm
This is Santa Bush. He's giving everyone gifts to assure his re-election.

I am a conservative Republican but I've just about had enough of Bush giving away the farm for his re-election.

10 posted on 01/06/2004 8:46:29 PM PST by boycott
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To: navyblue
Somebody please tell me why Mexico gets this golden key to the United States.

Because their cheap labor is the closest, and most readily available to obtain, and allows them downwardly bargain the wages of current American citizen and resident job holders. The industries gain a short term profit reducing the labor "cost", and reward and encourage lawmakers by kicking back some of the profits as campaign contributions.

Just another way to create an American underclass. Which is profitable for some, in the short term.

11 posted on 01/06/2004 8:48:08 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Both the Left and the (phony corporate) Right have a powerful stake in massive immigration.

The Left wants it because the great majority of immigration is non-white, and they lust for the day when whites cease to be the majority in the country.

The Right wants it for the reason you stated-to depress wages, hopefully until American wages equalize with those of the Third World.

The victims are the white middle and working classes who are losing economically, socially, and politically

12 posted on 01/06/2004 8:51:47 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: Reactionary
"Mr. Bush will also argue, administration officials said, that his plan will make the country safer by giving the authorities a better idea of who is in the country and crossing its borders."

From Decline and Fall, Chapter 31:

"At the hour of midnight the Salerian gate was silently opened, and the inhabitants were awakened by the tremendous sound of the Gothic trumpet. Eleven hundred and sixty-three years after the foundation of Rome, the Imperial city, which had subdued and civilised so considerable a part of mankind, was delivered to the licentious fury of the tribes of Germany and Scythia."
13 posted on 01/06/2004 8:51:55 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: navyblue
At the very least, everyone ought to be required to start from scratch. Set Mexico's quota up to a million persons a year, fine, but illegal presence of Mexicans here should not give them a leg up on those who actually respected the laws of the USA enough to wait at home while working at a maquiladora or some such.
14 posted on 01/06/2004 8:55:17 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: navyblue
Oh, and what are the people who have been waiting in OTHER countries, sometimes for years, going to say? And what about those already here -- family, friends and former neighbors -- waiting for them? "Unfair, unfair!"
15 posted on 01/06/2004 8:59:10 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: WackyKat; mrustow
There is a "white" self-loathing, maybe due to color, a lot due to the fact the "people" failed the socialists and didn't follow their lead. The "immigrants" fill a need to express sympathy and control on subjects who don't talk back.

But the plan effects Americans of any ethnicity. The candidate who expresses this truth without the tint of racism can win the election hardily - with massive minority support.

Also, the corporate "right" has coopted the "left" which really has no interest in supporting actual Americans, for whom they have latent hostility. You can call the lobby the "corporate-left", a mix of industry lobbies that can't outsource their labor overseas allied with left-identity groups.
16 posted on 01/06/2004 9:03:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Reactionary
Yeah, the only thing that comes close to matching this bit of stupidity is "read my lips, no new taxes".
17 posted on 01/06/2004 9:06:52 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: Reactionary
The stupidity of this proposal amazes me.

What is the answer to the problem? Round 'em all up and send 'em packin'?

18 posted on 01/06/2004 9:11:17 PM PST by Libloather (Oh, great. Now I find myself trying different ways to end up on jigsaw's Taglinus thread...)
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To: sarcasm
"promote compassion"

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You voted for him. He told you what you were getting.

19 posted on 01/06/2004 9:13:53 PM PST by RLK
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"But the president's plans are expected to face a tough fight in Congress, where conservative Republicans have said they consider programs like the one the president is proposing nothing more than amnesty for people who have broken the law."

For the first time in memory, I'm sooooo thankful for the House of Representatives and their Republican leadership. I can't imagine Mr. DeLay & Co. following the President on this one, and it is a reality check that the president OBVIOUSLY needs.

20 posted on 01/06/2004 9:15:32 PM PST by 11B3 (Democratic Socialists of America: 78 members in Congress. Treason? YES.)
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