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Court: N.C. must broaden its Medicaid coverage for illegal immigrants
Greensboro News and Record ^

Posted on 01/07/2004 4:49:45 AM PST by AppyPappy

Court: N.C. must broaden its Medicaid coverage for illegal immigrants

RALEIGH (AP) — North Carolina must broaden its Medicaid coverage for illegal immigrants to allow for longer-term treatment of serious health problems, the state Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday.

The ruling could expand the kinds of medical treatment that illegal immigrants receive under the Medicaid program. For hospitals that are already treating illegal immigrants, the decision could also mean more Medicaid reimbursements.

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TOPICS: Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; biggovernment; borderpatrol; bushturnssocialist; cradletograve; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegalmexicans; immigrantlist; invasion; nccourtrulings; ncmedicaid; ncpolitics; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; oligarchy; plunder; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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Geez....
1 posted on 01/07/2004 4:49:46 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
More hospital closings in North Carolina. Film at 11.
2 posted on 01/07/2004 4:50:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: AppyPappy
There goes my boiling blood again. I'm starting to wish these appelate judges slow painful deaths.
3 posted on 01/07/2004 4:55:19 AM PST by x1stcav ( HOOAHH!)
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To: x1stcav
They're getting free care? Nothing to see here and its time to move on... ;-)
4 posted on 01/07/2004 4:56:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: gubamyster
ping
5 posted on 01/07/2004 4:56:10 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: AppyPappy
Dont worry, this problem will go away once Bush declares illegals legal.
6 posted on 01/07/2004 4:58:41 AM PST by dagnabbit (Suport Amnesty 2007 ! For illegals arriving after Bush's 04 amnesty. It's never too early to care.)
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To: dagnabbit
Yeah welfare for newly minted U.S citizens. <sarcasm
7 posted on 01/07/2004 4:59:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: dagnabbit
Great tag line!! I guess Jeb and his Mexican wife will be in charge of the follow-up amnesty.
8 posted on 01/07/2004 5:11:01 AM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: AppyPappy; billbears; Constitution Day
NC Freebie ping
9 posted on 01/07/2004 5:14:12 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: goldstategop
Yeah, what a thing to wake up to in NC.
10 posted on 01/07/2004 5:15:30 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: AppyPappy
We should all renounce our citizenship, move out of the country, then sneak back in illegally. We would be better off (if having the government take care of you is your goal.)
11 posted on 01/07/2004 5:17:14 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: AppyPappy
bump
12 posted on 01/07/2004 5:20:37 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: spodefly
I see today is getting off to a good start. W should be ashamed of himself.
13 posted on 01/07/2004 5:23:27 AM PST by chris1
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To: azhenfud; *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; ...
Complete ruling

NC Ping*



Luna v. Division of Soc. Serv.

On 26 December 1999, petitioner Benito Luna, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, arrived at the emergency room at Moses Cone Hospital in Greensboro, North Carolina, complaining of weakness and numbness in the lower extremities, erectile dysfunction, and bladder hesitancy. He was admitted to the hospital that same dayfor x-rays and an MRI of his thoracic spine. The MRI revealed an intramedullary spinal cord tumor at the T6 level, and doctors originally diagnosed petitioner as having “medullary non-Hodgkin's lymphoma,” and later clarified the diagnosis as “thoracic myelopathy with monoplegia in the lower limb and a malignant spinal cord neoplasm.” On 28 December 1999, Luna underwent a thoracic laminectomy and resection of the spinal cord tumor.

After the surgery, the petitioner was gradually mobilized and, on 3 January 2000, the hospital transferred him to its rehabilitation unit for a comprehensive rehabilitation program. At the time of petitioner's transfer, 3 January 2000, his diagnosis was the same as in December. During petitioner's ten-day period in the rehabilitation service, the consulting oncologist noted that he had no signs of other disease, but believed that he had a primary central nervous system lymphoma. The pathology report confirmed this diagnosis. The doctor recommended “immediate” treatment to include high doses of chemotherapy.

On 14 January 2000, the rehabilitation service administered a Port-A-Cath to prepare petitioner for chemotherapy, and then transferred him to the hospital's oncology unit for intravenous chemotherapy. The oncology service then administered the treatment from 14 January through 24 January 2000, when petitioner was released to go home. Because the chemotherapy agent used in the course of petitioner's treatment was highly toxic at the doses used, it had to be administered on an inpatient basis. After 24 January 2000, petitioner was readmitted to the hospital for theremaining doses of the chemotherapy treatment plan.

Complete ruling
14 posted on 01/07/2004 5:29:45 AM PST by TaxRelief
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To: chris1
Exactly **HOW** is this President Bush's fault?
15 posted on 01/07/2004 5:32:04 AM PST by TaxRelief
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To: azhenfud
I don't live in NC anymore but this would make my blood boil as well. I am really irritated at Dubya right now with this blanket amnesty for the illegals here. When are these politicians on both sides of the aisle going to stop pandering to each ethnic group. Treat criminals like criminals!
16 posted on 01/07/2004 5:33:48 AM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: azhenfud
ARGH!!! What a pantload!!
17 posted on 01/07/2004 5:43:31 AM PST by Constitution Day (Iraqi blogger to President Bush: "The bones in the mass graves salute you, Avenger of the Bones.")
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To: TaxRelief
He has set the tone and given these judges sufficient confidence to render any crazy opinion without fear of reveral or backlash.
18 posted on 01/07/2004 5:44:45 AM PST by chris1
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To: TaxRelief
"ILLEGAL" alien...
19 posted on 01/07/2004 5:47:52 AM PST by cynicom
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To: AppyPappy
They should only receive enough emergency medical care to safely deport them to their home country. All medical costs should be paid by their home country.
20 posted on 01/07/2004 5:48:38 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: dagnabbit
Let me repost this as needed..

Your posts, almost all of them, are SO pitifully predictably.. ANTI BUSH.. You are an interesting case study to watch, and you will be a source of interest as we get closer to the finish.

21 posted on 01/07/2004 5:53:24 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: x1stcav
Same here . . . Five words sum my anger up best: "This ruling is sheer madness."
Let's face it: Our country's generosity is being abused exponentially . . . and we must fight mightily with pen and voice every day to alter the present course of history.
With best regards . . . Penny
22 posted on 01/07/2004 5:53:44 AM PST by Penny
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To: AppyPappy
My doctors office..Two Mexican men, one woman, one baby. No one speaks english, they cannot fill out questionaire. No money, no insurance and 'NO UNNERSTAN". Nurse gives up, takes baby in to doctor. No payment, nothing, doctor just forgets about it. They walk out, baby has medicine. This was in NC. Illegals are supposed to be thrown out of the country.
23 posted on 01/07/2004 5:55:09 AM PST by cynicom
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To: chris1
The only way to stop this is for the House to start impeaching judges.
24 posted on 01/07/2004 5:56:25 AM PST by nygoose
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To: spodefly
LOL
25 posted on 01/07/2004 5:57:41 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: AppyPappy
Sounds like NC is becoming the California of the East Coast. Who cares what the state government or the voters want - liberal judges have the final say. Maybe Howard Dean will carry NC if this attitude exists in beautiful NC. Chapel Hill seems to have infected the state's judicial system.
26 posted on 01/07/2004 5:58:08 AM PST by doc30
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To: AppyPappy
I find it insulting that, in this day of terror alerts and terrorism threats, American citizens (legals) are held under more scrutiny than an illegal. Illegal aliens have -- in many cases -- more benefits than do legal citizens. Presient Bush is making a serious mistake by granting amnesty to these people. And he is doing it purely out of political motivation. This country's priorities are completely hosed. You have to wake up, America.
27 posted on 01/07/2004 5:59:11 AM PST by defendingright
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To: doc30
NC has the fastest growing, per centage wise, Mexican population in the US.
28 posted on 01/07/2004 6:01:10 AM PST by cynicom
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To: AppyPappy
I just visited NC for the Christmas holiday and was shocked at how many illegals were running rampant - even in the countryside.
29 posted on 01/07/2004 6:01:58 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: AppyPappy
Anoyone know if this can be appealed to the state supreme court?
30 posted on 01/07/2004 6:02:33 AM PST by Hacksaw (theocratic Confederate flag waving loyalty oath supporter)
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To: Lady Eileen
I live in small town in NC. They are everywhere.
31 posted on 01/07/2004 6:03:06 AM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Try Siler City. Chatham County is practically a Mexican province.
32 posted on 01/07/2004 6:12:45 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I live in da sticks. Often see at least twenty get out of one van and pile into the super market.
33 posted on 01/07/2004 6:21:47 AM PST by cynicom
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To: AppyPappy
Unbelievable.
34 posted on 01/07/2004 6:22:25 AM PST by rintense
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To: carlo3b
Carlo,

IMO, Bush has messed in the nest with this proposed Amnesty.

I have always been fair in my criticism of his policies, but this time he will be going to far not to receive chastisement.

Yes, he has secured our country from attack, but the cost of that was the Patriot Act, a bill containing blatant violations of Constitutional amendments. But Hey, its war so a lot of us gave him a pass on that one.

The, he signed CFR, limiting Free Speech during elections...not supportive of the 1st Amendment. Everyone said "Oh, thats OK, the Supreme Court will rule against it, thats why he signed it, he knows it will never stand up to the court test.".....Wrong!

Then he signed the Medicaid overhaul, essentially creating the largest entitlement in the history of the country in one fell swoop.....a move toward socialism.

Now he is proposing Amnesty for Illegals, instead of enforcing the existing laws and having them rounded up and deported. He wants to use the money that you see taken out of your income go toward helping a class of people who are here illegally. Your immigrant ancestors will be rolling in the grave when they find out the hoops they had to jump through just to emigrate into this country have been eliminated, with entitlements provided to boot. This proposal is a slap in the face to everyone who went through Ellis Island.

IMO, the final straw will be Bush's refusal to let the AWB sunset. He will sign that renewal. Why should I believe he would do otherwise when I can see what he has already done.

So, on face we have a President who claims to be a conservative, yet in principle he acts like a socialist.

Maybe its the eight years of Clinton that has desensitized us to the the point that we define Conservatism as someone who keeps his pants on and goes to church, irrelevant of whatever nonsense he does in office.

Bush is a neo-con, he is not a Regan type conservative. I sense a major spit in the Republican Party if he continues as he has.
35 posted on 01/07/2004 6:23:29 AM PST by Rebelbase (After amnesty for Illegal Aliens, the AWB renewel is a sure thing.)
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To: cynicom
The State of North Carolina has been openly encouraging illegal aliens since long before President Bush was elected.

If you really want to get upset, read the Spanish papers in NC, Las Carolinas and La Noticia with the Lycos On line Translator if necessary. There are several more papers throughout the state.

[excerpted and translated from this week's editorial in La Noticia]
...We hope that one [change for 2004] takes the shape so needed of reform in the immigration laws. The undocumented workers have been for years the fuel of the economy of this nation. They do the badly-paid servant work, that most of the Americans no longer want to do. It is a situation from which the employers, the government and the economy in general benefit. Even so, these undocumented workers do not have access to the benefits that the American employees receive almost with certainty, like insurance of health, savings for the retirement and insurance of unemployment. We must choose ready people to defend the rights of this essential but not very appreciated group of workers....[snip].

36 posted on 01/07/2004 6:46:46 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Links" build the chain of knowledge.)
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To: TaxRelief
Mystery to me is, where do they live???
37 posted on 01/07/2004 6:50:27 AM PST by cynicom
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To: doc30
Maybe Howard Dean will carry NC if this attitude exists

Has Howard Dean proposed closing the borders and deporting the current population of illegal aliens?

38 posted on 01/07/2004 7:04:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (I reserve the right to disclaim all January 2004 posts after the BABY is born!)
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To: goldstategop
They're getting free care?

It maybe free to them, but it's not free to you or I. Somebody has to pay for it at some point. If they can't, the government will get the money from others.

39 posted on 01/07/2004 7:05:39 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Rebelbase
You have outlined your list of valid grievances in a fair summary, but those facts are absent a few rejoinders..

I have been an employer in the hospitality industry for more than a few of decades, (at one point 3800 employees), and have employed more than my share of illegals. In the 60's in Chicago and throughout the Midwest, it was Greeks, Polish, and Lithuanians, even a few Russians, and Cubans. Most of these wonderful folks stayed long enough to establish a record of employment and opened their own businesses, or bought homes and learned English and blended into our lives as equals.

In the 70's it was Middle Easterners, and in the south, it was the beginning of the heavy Mexican influx. In the 80's it began the Pacific Rim invasion, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, and more Mexicans. The 90's was more Middle Easterners, and a lot more Central American's, than Mexican. It became a joke and a pattern that we had a second shift of Muslims that would work Sundays and Holidays to keep the doors opened when everyone else wanted or just took those days off.

My jobs were in the beginning, low paying, bottom rung, entry level jobs. Jobs that were steady and dirty. Maintainance, housekeeping, kitchen, dishwashing, busboy.. I started hiring illegals as a practice in the 70's by necessity.  By then, we had changed the school calendar (shorter summer vacation making training high school kids almost useless), child labor laws, under 16 unavailable, and with few exceptions (blacks), welfare or single mom minorities, that wouldn't work longer than 26 weeks. Just long enough to qualify for extended unemployment. It was far more insidious than just quitting after 26 weeks, they would fake an injury and file suit, or claim harassment, or labor claims against our company, costing thousands and keeping a law firm, not just a lawyer on the payroll (the 4th largest line item on my P & L statement).

For the most part, we kept these employees and raised their pay as they increased their effectiveness just to prevent the turnover. They would furnish us with relatives to replace themselves as they moved up the job ladder. NOBODY applied for these positions, and paying $12 an hour, plus benefits $6 more, for a dishwasher just doesn't work. These folks worked for $8, and would take home food, and learn a trade, cook, bellboy, bartender, waiter, and move up as soon as we taught them.

I left the hassle to raise my children, but just as much to escape the government and changing attitudes of my fellow countrymen toward immigrants.. and this sort of problem we are faced with today.. Bitch all you want, but you are not allowed to be as aware as you need to be.. Today you have almost exclusively fast foods and poor motel service because of this pressure to pander to your emotions,. Now you pump your own gas, pick up your own food in a restaurant, and soon you will make your own beds, or purchase fruits and vegetables from Timbuktu, because we cut off immigration... I'm outta here.. Bash Bush, bus your own tables, and feed your kids junk.. you are winning..  Developing..

40 posted on 01/07/2004 7:41:32 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
41 posted on 01/07/2004 8:25:16 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: AppyPappy
The people who run the government really hate us, really bad.
42 posted on 01/07/2004 8:29:38 AM PST by junta
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To: carlo3b
Today you have almost exclusively fast foods and poor motel service because of this pressure to pander to your emotions,. Now you pump your own gas, pick up your own food in a restaurant, and soon you will make your own beds, or purchase fruits and vegetables from Timbuktu, because we cut off immigration... I'm outta here.. Bash Bush, bus your own tables, and feed your kids junk.. you are winning.. Developing.

I don't understand you're point - immigration , both legal & illegal, is at an all time high and there's every indication it will be accelerating.

43 posted on 01/07/2004 8:36:24 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: AppyPappy
Take The Lead North Carolina!!!

Tell the Courts Where They Can Put Their Anti-American Dictate

STOP --- STOP --- STOP

Un-American Judicial Tyranny

Starting Today!!!

44 posted on 01/07/2004 9:01:01 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: AppyPappy
I started reading this and didn't have the heart to finish the article.

Illegal aliens no longer even bother to hide themselves. They just show up and get their rightful benefits.

45 posted on 01/07/2004 9:04:11 AM PST by Gritty ("we must come to grips with 8-12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status-Tom Ridge)
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To: x1stcav
And their insurance cancelled!!
46 posted on 01/07/2004 9:29:24 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: carlo3b
Most of these wonderful folks stayed long enough to establish a record of employment and opened their own businesses, or bought homes and learned English and blended into our lives as equals.

There is one huge difference betwen the people you write about and the illegal alien problem tiday.

Your people came legally, and expected to make roots here.

Most of the illegals today send much of their money home and only expect to make money here. They have no plans on staying and starting a new life here.

They aren't really immigrants they are temporary workers.

I'm all for legal immigration, as most immigrants have a burning desire to make a new life and work hard to do it. That desire is what has made the Country great.
But today we have people coming here expecting to go on Gov assistance.

I think some sort of temporary work visa is an excellent idea, BUT there has to be benefit restrictions.
No SS benefits ( possibly collect SS taxes and apply it to their country of origin old age plan),
emergency medical care only ( or thru an employer plan),
children born to work visa holders are NOT U.S. citizens.
If they lose the job, bye- bye.

But first, enforce the border.

47 posted on 01/07/2004 2:26:54 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: AppyPappy
Puke and bump.
48 posted on 01/07/2004 2:38:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AppyPappy
See, here is where, if I was the governor of NC, I would use this judge's decision as a great motivator to round the illegals up and get rid of them. Part I: Station uniformed state troopers at every hospital to ask for "papers".
49 posted on 01/07/2004 2:40:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AppyPappy
bttt
50 posted on 01/07/2004 4:17:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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