[Aurelius]

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[Jonah Hex]

ping to you.

[BenLurkin]

IIRC, Some of these Indian tribes owned slaves.

[RebelBanker]

ping

[stainlessbanner]

Cherokee bump

[Agnes Heep]

For most people, North and South, the slavery issue was not so much whether to keep it or not, but how to phase it out without causing economic and social disruption and disaster.

I suppose that's why the South was so warm for the extension of slavery to the territories--phasing it out, and all that.

[Non-Sequitur]

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[snippy_about_it]

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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General Stand Hope Watie - Jan. 5th, 2004

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Cherokee Nation Declaration of Causes -or- Cherokee Declaration of Causes

The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General Stand Hope Watie - Jan. 5th, 2004

[Happy2BMe]

"Disclaiming any intention to invade the Northern States, they sought only to repel the invaders from their own soil and to secure the right of governing themselves."

My great grandmother and grandfather came across the Trail of Tears from North Carolina into Oklahoma Territory.

My great grandfather then took the life of a white Union soldier who was harrassing his family and fled into the hills to keep from being hanged.

When Registration was ordered, my great grandfather (Parker) did not go into the reservation to register.

Had he done so, none of his descendents would be here now to tell the story.

[Jokelahoma]

So through the referencing of a whopping two published items (two whole works! The research must have taken minutes, if not even a few hours!), the author concludes that there is some sort of evil conspiracy which can only be exposed if we harp on the fact that Indian nations were anti-Union? That's remarkable work! How nice it must be for Mr. Scruggs to feel only he can enlighten us to the inner workings of the Cherokee mind. And of course, the Cherokee dislike and distrust of the Feds had nothing to do with the fact the Feds marched them from Carolina to Oklahoma. It was all because the Cherokee were true Libertarians and just didn't like Republicans.

It IS nice, however, to know that should I ever suffer a debilitating brain injury, I can still either play bass in a country band or submit articles to Lew Rockwell. Look for the Rockwellians to secede from the Web any day now.

[stainlessbanner]

The Seminoles decended from Creeks and were continually pushed into the swamps of Florida. Anyone who is familiar with the Sem-Indian Wars in FLA will know why there is a distrust of Feds by the natives.

I recall how Col. Jesup of the Federal Army met with Osceola under a white flag of truce and then captured him, a move that discredited Jesup, worsened relations, and ultimately led to Osceola' imprisionment at St. Aug and later his death.

[NativeSon]

They revered the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution as particularly important guarantors of their rights and freedoms.

I am not an expert on Cherokee history but I have seen a list of treaty after treaty (broken?) and know of some very unfriendly acts committed by the U.S. . as far as "Rights and Freedoms" that was something not afforded to AI's in general, perticually ones that had the audacity to continue to be AI.

Using the Cherokee's desire to maintain their American way of life as the reason for joining the Confederates makes be laugh.

[Maverick88]

Well ? Im a Red-Neck. Recon between all the Gun Control & Welfair programs , HUD and prison over crowding? Im not sure we made the right choice back in them days.
Just between my fellow Red-Neck & Red-Skin Brothers.

[lentulusgracchus]

Who wrote the Indian declaration? It seems to have been written in large part with respect to what the federal government was doing in Missouri about the time that it was written, and also to the jailings in the East.

[SevenDaysInMay]

BTTT.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Bump

[Dionysius]

Chief Dan George in the incomparable "Outlaw Josey Wales":
(paraphrased) "They took our picture and put it in the paper. 'Indians vow to attempt to persevere', they titled it. We thought about it, and, when we thought about it enough, we went home and declared war on the Union"......
"I never surrendered, but they took my horse and made him surrender." His performance spoke most eloquently of the betrayal of the Cherokee Nation.

[thatdewd]

BTTT

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