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W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: Chuzzlewit
Interesting story here as well -

"I wholeheartedly disagree with the reported intent of this administration to issue temporary work visas to workers in the United States Illegally. As a Project Manager for an underground construction company [which he then names], I have had an extremely difficult and frustrating time dealing with the INS (now the Dept. of Homeland Security) regarding two Australian citizens with highly specialized knowledge and 7 years more experience than any comparable American Citizens for my microtunneling operations. They have extensive experience using a highly technical and specialized trenchless method, and have installed 3 times the amount of footage of anyone else in the world.

"I have spent numerous dollars in attorneys' fees, expedited processing fees, airline tickets, hotel rooms (both in Australia and the US) attempting to navigate the byzantine temporary worker visa program while attempting to get a green card or H1-B for the two Aussies in question. (These two Australians want to maintain their Australian citizenship but work in the US and train US workers to their standards for approximately 3-5 years and then return to their native country.) They are hard working, they pay US taxes, and they have made every effort to stay within the letter of US immigration laws (as has my company).

"I cannot begin to express how frustrating it is to me personally that it has cost me approximately US$50,000 (and untold frustration to the Australians and their families shuttling back and forth and disrupting their children's education and life), attempting to follow the regulations of US immigration laws, only to find out that our President is contemplating handing out 3 year protected working visas to any Tom, Dick, or Harry working here illegally that managed to sneak across the border one way or another and has made absolutely no effort to obey the immigration laws of the United States

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_01_04_corner-archive.asp#022270
181 posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:28 PM PST by Weimdog
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To: OXENinFLA
He's talking about employers not being allowed to hire undocumented workers....WTF? Is'nt that what we require now?
182 posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:35 PM PST by Rebelbase (Hey, tlbshow up yours!)
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To: Howlin
This system will be no more enforced than the border is now. It will be a joke
183 posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:40 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: OXENinFLA
This new program would be open both to new perspective foreign workers who are currently in our country, and the undocumented men and women who are currently employed in the United States -- currently employed in the United States.

...I thought it was illegal to hire undocumented men and women
184 posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:47 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Rebelbase
Is it of any interest to you that I disagree with the President on this issue, which is why I want to know what's really going on?

Do you have a brain, or do you just spew venom as a matter of course, regardless of the facts?

185 posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:54 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: My Favorite Headache
When you misinterpret something that bad, you probably should stay away from the polls.
186 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:03 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: primeval patriot
Expects temporary workers to return to home when work ends.
187 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:03 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Neets
Sighhhhhhhhhh,, maybe later when I can home i can filter out the riff raff and get to what he actually said.

The speech will be published on the WhiteHouse.gov website within a few minutes of its conclusion. That will save your filtering, etc. Hate for you to have to spend all that time filtering through the riff raff. [I just usually skip over them, but that's me.]
188 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:07 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: My Favorite Headache
God Help The Republic......

The talking points say this is not about amnesty it is about a guest worker problem .

Note he is talking about the "immigrants" building this country .That does not sound like a guest worker program ..it is indeed a plan to legalize the ILLEGALS that are her. A sure reward for law breaking

He is now applauding their illegal entry and how "brave " they were. LOL. He says that this will help solve the illegal immigration into the nation..WHY ?? You are rewarded at the end for your criminal behavior

This "law " will also include all the illegals form other nations here to..I wonder what it does to regulate the high tech immigration ..sound like the restriction will be off too. This will drive down wages in all types of employment ..People now making $8 to $!0 will be replaced by minimum wage workers. He thinks they will leave when their jobs are gone?? LOL Yea just like all the students overstaying their visas..He thinks we are stupid!!

I am absolutely disgusted..this is the last straw to me !!

If my congressman ( a republican )votes for this I will work to defeat him..and I will sit on my hands as far as the presidency is concerned..

189 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:10 PM PST by RnMomof7 (broomstick jockey)
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To: Steel Wolf
I know that is why Great Britain had a standing Army -- to secure their borders. They had to have an Army in case the Panzers crossed the English Channel.
190 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:21 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: My Favorite Headache
Jobs Americans won't fill? Name one. Although I've heard this before, it is disingenuous in the extreme.
191 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:25 PM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: Miss Marple
Over the generations we have received optimistic pepople from every part of the world. By tradition and by history we are a welcoming society. Every generation of immigrants has reaffirmed assimilating newcomers. Between 1891 and 1920 we received 18 million men and women from other nations. The children of immigrants helped liberate the land of their ancestors

Today's "immigrants" expect everyone else to speak THIER language, and want to transfer their homeland here. The immigrants of 1891-1920 came here to be real Americans, and build a better nation. The overwhelming number of todays immigrants are here for what they can get at someone elses expense.
192 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:29 PM PST by wjcsux (DemocRATS, out of touch with America, out of touch with reality.)
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To: WackyKat
This is total crap...TOTAL crap
193 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:32 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: primeval patriot
American citizens not willing to take jobs.

So is Bush saying that us legals are lazy?

194 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:37 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: ohioWfan
You seem to want groupthink.
195 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:38 PM PST by Constitution Day (Iraqi blogger to President Bush: "The bones in the mass graves salute you, Avenger of the Bones.")
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
WTF is this!? Half the jobs I apply for get outsourced to f------ India, and Bush is telling other foreigners to come on down?

Aw, hell no!

(This is a double-barreled megaping that simply leaves me shaking my head and saying "Maldición justa." (or Just damn to those of us who speak English)...

196 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:40 PM PST by mhking
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To: eyespysomething
My husband and I were debating the point that our country was founded on immigrants, has grown with immigrants.

True, but this ain't the 19th century, there's no longer a continent to settle, no industrial revolution to populate.

And sentimentality makes for terrible immigration policy.

197 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:47 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: primeval patriot
I oppose amnesty.

Perpetuates illegal immigration.
198 posted on 01/07/2004 12:01:57 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: primeval patriot
End the Great Society welfare state and watch those jobs get filled by Americans, with the concurrent benefit of reducing government expenditures, and actually increasing tax revenues.
199 posted on 01/07/2004 12:02:07 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"You don't have a lot of choice. We don't have a lot of choice."

That's EXACTLY what Bush is counting on. BAhhh....bahhhh...
200 posted on 01/07/2004 12:02:07 PM PST by Rebelbase (Hey, tlbshow up yours!)
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