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Rush Limbaugh: "Immigration Proposal Roils America"
Rush Limbaugh.Com ^ | 1-7-04 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/07/2004 3:31:00 PM PST by Matchett-PI

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To: Matchett-PI
If free trade is so great, why isn't free immigration. If all the US jobs are being sent to India shouldn't we be permitted to go work in India?
21 posted on 01/07/2004 4:16:01 PM PST by msu2
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To: OldFriend
Round them up and put them in camps or just deport everyone who barely speaks english?

That's a good place to start.

Pack them a lunch for the trip?

No, we watered and fed them coming in.

Should we bother with due process?

No, by default, they are here ILLEGALLY.

How about a camp in your town?

I'll section off an acre as long as they promise a fast turn around, gotta keep it moving. I'm sure you'll find more taker's.

Do we provide them with medical care while they are in our custody?

Humane treatment, yes. Medical Care, only for bullet wound's while in our custody.

Probably not the answer's you were hoping for, but certainly the ones you were fishing for. Blackbird.

22 posted on 01/07/2004 4:22:55 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: kaktuskid; OldFriend
" Question..how do you remove 8 million illegals (without hiring 8 million more govt employees raising your taxes) or having a forced movement of persons that would make the Nazi trains to the concentration camps look like Thomas the tank engine!"

When I have asked that question in earlier discussions-the responses that I have gotten from posters have been , "snipers on the border that shoot to kill," "public hangings of illegals on Main Street,to send a message to Mexico," etc,etc. It appears impossible to try and have a frank discussion about how to deal with problem of illegal immigrants,without the usual mindless sloganeering. President Bush made a proposal,he didn't make a law today.I watched the speech when I got home from work tonight and I don't think anything he proposed, is worthy of the hysteria from some on the right.Guess I am a calm conservative and will wait to see what kind of law Congress hashes out-if any.
23 posted on 01/07/2004 4:22:57 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
I'm ashamed to be reading some of the hate spewed on this website.

I know Jim Robinson has done his best to keep the immigration threads from imploding and I thank him for that.

24 posted on 01/07/2004 4:25:31 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Cicero
HERE is the only thing Rush said I agree with:

The Mexican leader has been whining for years the U.S. hasn't done enough to provide employment opportunities for Mexican citizens. Well, screw him. What about his own country providing jobs for his own citizens? What is the responsibility that we have for this? I mean, for crying out loud, we got enough people in this country who think the government's job is to provide work for them. What is this business that the Mexican president thinks that it's our job to do that for his own citizens, too?

25 posted on 01/07/2004 4:26:35 PM PST by Indie
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To: BushCountry
"In the early part to of the 20th century (1910-1920) the major debate in politics was that immigrants form southern Europe were going to destroy this country. Those sneaky "I"talians and the dirty Irishman would bring this country to ruination. It seems the hatred has shifted to immigrants from Mexico?"

Those sneaky Italians and dirty Irishmen came to this country legally and openly. This debate is about granting people who've broken laws a blanket amnesty for doing so. Although I agree with many other of your points, this is about illegal and unlawful aliens.......NOT immigration as defined and allowed by law.

If Clinton had proposed this, my guess is you would be screaming treason until your larnyx bled. But a Republican makes it ok????

26 posted on 01/07/2004 4:27:16 PM PST by Dazedcat
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To: BushCountry
My rant about everyone over-blowing the immigration issue out of proportion!..Get on the clue bus you've missed your stop.
27 posted on 01/07/2004 4:28:08 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004 Primary)
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To: Matchett-PI
President Bush can say "Hasta Lavista" to my vote baby!
If I vote for anyone during the Presidential election, Im writing Tom Tancredo in on my ballot!
 
At least he doesnt kiss Vicentes butt...

28 posted on 01/07/2004 4:28:53 PM PST by Dr. Marten ("My affections are first for my own country,and then, generally, for all mankind" ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Rockitz
"I can see it now. Former illegals sue to recoup back- social security benefits and income taxes from times when they were working in the US illegally."

They are already trying to work this out between the governments so that it is possible. My question is, if they are suing to gain lost monies paid into SS when they were working in the US illegally, how do US citizens get back the money they lost paying out for the tax burden placed on them by these same illegal aliens?
29 posted on 01/07/2004 4:31:49 PM PST by Dr. Marten ("My affections are first for my own country,and then, generally, for all mankind" ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Matchett-PI
I hope GW hasn't triangulated wrong on this one.

The line about "jobs Americans won't fill", while arguably true, won't resonate very well with an electorate with 1mil less jobs than when GW took office.
30 posted on 01/07/2004 4:31:58 PM PST by mikenola
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To: Republic Rocker
Bush again will have the Dems boxed in on this one..He is great at this!

Yeah. Strategery. Just like campaign finance reform. < /sarcasm>

31 posted on 01/07/2004 4:32:22 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: BushCountry
What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?
Most folks here don't have any problems with LEGAL immigrants. You know: the ones who wait their turn and jump through the INS hoops?
It is the ILLEGAL part we object to, and the President is proposing to reward a CRIMINAL act.
32 posted on 01/07/2004 4:33:50 PM PST by Little Ray (Why settle for a Lesser Evil? Cthuhlu for President!)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Good post. Yet the proposal, and the eventual law forthcoming from this proposal, will be a danger to this country, will help nobody but people who are not citizens (Where in the Constitution is this requirement to help illegal immigrants?), will destroy the Republican party and its tentative hold on power, will further divide a country which is getting further divided every day, and put further tax strain on the middle class people of this country. (The workers providing tax income argument is BS.)
In short: Maybe not today, but later...you can kiss it all goodbye. Not because of this, but it is a large nail in our coffin.
33 posted on 01/07/2004 4:34:38 PM PST by Indie (Hopefully I made a valid argument void of hate speech)
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To: BushCountry
Sorry. I am a WASP, who's roots in this country have been followed back to about 1700.


I'm sick and tired of not being able to understand someone behind a counter somewhere. Every day, I see the government bending over backwards to placate all sorts of people of color, many miscreants and malfeasors. Meanwhile, I see more and more just regular folks standing in unemployment lines, interestingly enough, most of those folks have a very good command of the English language.

This whole initiative can be summed up with four words:
California, Texas, Election, Hispanics.

Actually, now, a fifth word comes to mind:
Brown-nosing
34 posted on 01/07/2004 4:34:49 PM PST by djf
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
35 posted on 01/07/2004 4:35:53 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
It is too bad people are posting those things. I know they don't mean them, but lurkers may not. I am just undecided about this until I understand it better, but offhand, I am not so sure I like it. I too will just wait and see what the real deal is. Reading the transcript makes it not seem as all encompassing as one would think reading the threads.
36 posted on 01/07/2004 4:40:49 PM PST by ladyinred (W/04)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Rus is on a roll!
37 posted on 01/07/2004 4:47:13 PM PST by blackie
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
The first step is to secure the border so that the deporations aren't just bailing the ocean.

Then the normal process of apprehending and deporting those in the country illegally can actually take hold, when those doing the work don't have to deport the same person twice a month all year long.

I saw the American Border Patrol video with the Brasilian border intruders, I found it rather distressing that when they reported the group, the first US Border Patrol team essentially blew them off - "we're too busy to bother with arresting illegal immigrants caught in the act of sneaking into the US."

Sounds like there needs to be a shake-up in that realm too.
38 posted on 01/07/2004 4:49:28 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Matchett-PI
Rush the lightning rod and great diffuser
39 posted on 01/07/2004 4:50:00 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Matchett-PI
What happens to the companies that are suddenly required to furnish documentation that they have a job for the folks who now want the new work permit? Wouldn't the fact that your company suddenly has numerous requests for work permits become a red flag implying that you had been paying "undocumented" folks for awhile? Any tax, civil or criminal liability there on the part of the company? Were it my business, I'd be inclined to tell the undocumented folks to go home until I knew the company was protected.
40 posted on 01/07/2004 5:02:45 PM PST by ProfoundMan (The owl flies far for a candy bar.)
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