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Dean's Jesus talk is ringing false in the South
Tallahassee Democrat ^ | 8-Jan-2004 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 01/08/2004 6:14:57 AM PST by stainlessbanner

Dr. Howard Dean's God problem is like his Confederate flag problem. The more he tries to explain himself, the worse it gets and the further from political grace he strays.

First Dean swears he's committed to Jesus
Christ, then says he'd rather not talk about it. Except in the South, where he promises he'll be saying more and more about religion.

Which doesn't come easily to him, he reminds us, because he's from the Northeast where people don't wear their religion on their sleeves, as do those good folks down yonder.

But, well, when in Rome - Georgia, that is - praise Jesus and pass the grits.

From the boys in pickup trucks with Confederate flag stickers to the Bible-thumping Jesus bloc, one wonders what's next? Beauty queens, golfers and deer hunters? Look for Dean in camo, teeing off at Myrtle Beach with Miss South Carolina while tailgating on venison stew. Better make it an SUV, Bubba.

Dean's latest problem, however, isn't really about religion. It's not about whether he can accurately quote scripture or knows to which Testament the book of Job belongs. Recently Dean said Job was his favorite book in the Bible and placed it in the New Testament.

No, Dean's problem is far more complicated, and potentially more politically crippling, than the measure of his Christian content. The elephant in his front parlor is class. When he starts talking about Jesus to Southern religious folk, Dean betrays his upper-class dimness and insults the less privileged he hopes to attract.

Dean saying he's uncomfortable talking about religion because he's from the Northeast and his people don't talk openly about religion only reminds Southerners that he's from "off." And, let's face it, it underscores that he knows as much about poor people as he does about Job.

Personally, I have no problem with rich people. I don't think humble origin makes one more qualified for any job or that poverty endows greater virtue.

It's admirable when people make it on their own, to be sure. We love that in America. But given that we all strive to improve our lives materially, and hope that our children fare even better, it's contradictory to issue demerits to those who prove the American dream true.

Besides, only a generation or two separates the rich from the poor in the United States. As Joan Didion once wrote, it's not as though Americans have been gazing down 600 years of rolled lawns. We're all cut from the same cotton duck.

I also don't think Dean deserves to be beaten up for misplacing Job in the New Testament. Speaking extemporaneously is tricky, especially after months on the road, and slips of the tongue are both expected and forgivable.

But Dean's biblical slip, which merely underscored his awkward foray into the religious realm, damages most for casting light on his blinding insincerity. One day he scolds the South for casting votes around guns, God and gays. A few weeks later, he confesses to devotion to Christ and starts invoking the Lord.

He's like the carnival barker who says what potential suckers want to hear: "You want Jesus? Have we got Jesus!"

What Dean doesn't seem to "get" - and perhaps this is owing to his privilege - is that out-front religion in the South is often as much a function of social class as it is of faith. Among many poor blacks and whites, church is the cocktail party without the booze, the social club without the pedigree.

You don't find Southern Episcopalians, who prefer Chardonnay with their communion wafers, standing on street corners imploring passersby to prepare to meet Jesus. They're as lock-jawed and emotionally taut as any Park Avenue Yalie.

In other words, Dean's New England excuse is just another backhand to the poor voters he courts.

Here's what I've noticed having lived much of my life in the Bible Belt: Southerners have a bird dog's nose for artifice. And one sure-fire ticket to damnation, regardless of faith or denomination, is to be a fake.

That's why George Bush and Joseph Lieberman can talk about their faith with impunity. Faith is part of who they are rather than something they dust off at election time. The same was true of Jimmy Carter, but not of Bill Clinton, who brought out the Bible only when his tear ducts needed priming.

Dean would have fared far better had he stuck to his true grit, rather than his Southern impression. Religion is personal, he might have said, and even Southerners could understand that. What they can't understand, and are less likely to forgive, is a man who bears false witness.

Proverbs. Old Testament.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; christian; confederate; dean; deanschristianity; dixie; dixielist; god; howarddean; kathleenparker; south; southernstrategy
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To: stainlessbanner
Dean saying he's uncomfortable talking about religion because he's from the Northeast and his people don't talk openly about religion...

My Mother, a Wellesley grad from Lawrence,MA apparently never got the "Don't ask/ Don't tell" memo on religious discussion among northerners...or maybe Catholics are exempt?

21 posted on 01/08/2004 6:57:02 AM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: Hillary's Folly
Said Dean:

"I really enjoyed the part about Moses sailing the Ark of the Covenant around and saving the animals. And I really enjoyed the part about Jesus being resurrected. But gosh, who knew that Jesus was hispanic?"

22 posted on 01/08/2004 6:59:05 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: stainlessbanner
Yes, we southerners wear our religion on our sleeves. It's honest and defines who we are. We are comfortable with it. Northeasterners must be equally uncomfortable with their religion crammed down their pants.

I'm sick of these insults.
23 posted on 01/08/2004 7:00:17 AM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: stainlessbanner
IOW Dr. Dean is figuring he can be briefed into sincerity. If clinton could feel your pain, dean must think he could feel your religion.
24 posted on 01/08/2004 7:01:21 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
'Bearing false witness' was first mentioned when Moses came down from the mountain top with the stone tablets. Solomon's Proverbs have their precedence in Genesis.

8- )
25 posted on 01/08/2004 7:01:33 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Guillermo
The folks in Iowa are famous for their contrariness when it comes time to vote and the People in New Hampshire don't suffer fools gladly. I think Dean will lose in both. That will finish his campaign since SC is next. All those poll #'s for him up to this point are fluff since no one starts thinking about the election until it's almost on them. If I'm right it's bad news for Bush as he'll have to run against a more capable Dem.
26 posted on 01/08/2004 7:02:02 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2
Bush does not want to run against Clark.

Clark might beat him, because Clark will run to the right of Lefty Bushy.
29 posted on 01/08/2004 7:07:39 AM PST by Guillermo (All Puns Intended)
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To: stainlessbanner
It is indeed tough, being born with a silver spoon in your mouth, never having to mingle with the unwashed masses, and then when you decide you want to be president, you have to actually speak to those people. It is too much, wanting power and the only way to get it is via the unwashed masses votes. One should not have to stoop to begging for votes from such people. How horrible.
30 posted on 01/08/2004 7:08:01 AM PST by cynicom
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To: billorites
LOL! That is the funniest thing I have seen in awhile.

(I'm going to steal it if you don't mind.)

If somebody skilled in Photoshop used the Michelangelo or the Gustave Dore version of this episode - or one of the old German engravings with Christ in the clouds saying, "I am Jesus, whom thou persecutest!" (so that Paul's face is towards the viewer) it would be a relatively easy matter to strip in Howie's face . . . wish I had the smarts to do it . . .

31 posted on 01/08/2004 7:09:54 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: stainlessbanner
In other words, Dean's New England excuse is just another backhand to the poor voters he courts.

Only 'cuz the Yankees still have all our jewelry and silverware.

32 posted on 01/08/2004 7:10:29 AM PST by 4CJ (Dialing 911 doesn't stop a crime - a .45 does.)
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To: Guillermo
Bush beats any of the Dim candidates easily, just some more than others.
33 posted on 01/08/2004 7:16:23 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2; All
If Clark gets the nod...

Yup... I'm smelling this too. The Clintons want him bad 'cause he's their suck puppet. Dean won't dance to their tune. Clark will place 3'rd in Iowa and 2'nd in NH... not bad and still in striking range. A win in SC and he becomes a real boil on Deans ass. >>JMHO

34 posted on 01/08/2004 7:20:37 AM PST by johnny7 (“If you are being murdered, raped or molested... please hold... ”)
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To: Dutchgirl
You sure can't talk about God on this northern campus, at least not in front of professors. They are extremely uneasy. It's as bad as talking good about Bush (smile).
35 posted on 01/08/2004 7:22:47 AM PST by Marysecretary (,)
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To: cynicom
Well, he is a doctor after all. He's seen much more of the unwashed masses than most of us have. He's still a jerk.
36 posted on 01/08/2004 7:25:28 AM PST by Marysecretary (,)
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To: stainlessbanner
Dean saying he's uncomfortable talking about religion because he's from the Northeast and his people don't talk openly about religion

Those who have been touched by the Holy Spirit are never uncomfortable about religion. "His" people must lack this experience. Its the vocation not the location that matters.

37 posted on 01/08/2004 7:26:46 AM PST by kidd
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To: Blueflag
'Bearing false witness' was first mentioned when Moses came down from the mountain top with the stone tablets. Solomon's Proverbs have their precedence in Genesis.

Except that would be Exodus.

38 posted on 01/08/2004 7:28:23 AM PST by nepdap
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To: Arkie2
Unfortunately, Iowa uses a causus system that rewards organization and money rather than a primary system that reflects actual votes. Since Ashley Wilkes Clark is skipping the Iowa caucus, Doc Howie is quite likely to win decisively there.

When it comes to the general election, that is a whole new ball game!
39 posted on 01/08/2004 7:28:38 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: nepdap
Except that would be Exodus.

I firmly believe that all Bible citations on public forums should be allowed a plus or minus one book tolerance.

Of course, in Howie's case, that would need to be expanded to plus or minus one testament. :=)

40 posted on 01/08/2004 7:40:38 AM PST by Bob
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