Saddam and 9/11

Frontpage Magazine ^ | 1/8/2004 | Jamie Glazov

[justshutupandtakeit]

As I suspected there is nothing behind the label. Your link clearly illustrates that the catagorizations could only be taken seriously by ignoring the real thought of those catagorized.

For example, no man ever believed more or did more to establish the Rule of Law than Hamilton yet that concern is placed in the camp of Wilson. Even Wilson did not share the beliefs of those he is lumped with and some of the terms used are anachronistic, what would cause one to believe Wilson was a believer in "multilateralism?" None who have studied his life would believe that Hamilton was not one of the biggest "idealists" to ever live. Nor would I believe Jefferson would be a fan of the ACLU or was a "liberal." Not even Jackson could claim to be a proponent of "Workers' Populism" AND a "conservative." This is one of the sillier catagorizations I have seen. The author confuses means and ends throughout by making these attributes mutually exclusionary. Thus, an "idealist" cannot be seen to use "realist" methods. Who can claim that Jefferson was not an idealist even though he was as hard-nosed and realistic a politician as ever existed? What could be more idealistic or romantic than a man who killed serveral men in duels like Jackson? Or who allowed his idealistic view to reject all realism to destroy the 2d National bank and the nation's economy like the realist Jackson?

Patrick Henry was another who talked a good game but did little to actually secure freedom for our nation. A minor league Jefferson in love with the sound of his own voice but with little substantial political thought behind it. Plus he was as hypocritical as TJ and as big a crook as any of them. His idea of good government was one which did not interfere with the schemes of other "republican" crooks and mountebanks. He seemed blissfully unaware of the close connection between economic wealth and liberty both on the personal and national level but he was not a deep thinker being satisfied with just having something sound good, whether it made any sense was not important. But he knew that just throwing out a few buzz words such as "liberty" was sufficient to get the votes of the ignorant and gullible. Some things never change.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I HAVE heard he lives under a Bridge.

Seriously though I would not call him a troll just because I disagree with almost everything he says.

[JohnGalt]

It's just a label from an academic weenie I came across by on your fellow internationalist travelers on this site, but I will remove it from the lexicon.

I derived far more pleasure simply calling all the Global Democratic Revolutionaries either Trotskycons or Wilsonians, anyway.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

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[JohnGalt]

You object to my characterization by calling me dishonest.

That is not only blatant dishonesty on your part but a demonstration that your need to believe in Mylroie is not based on a rational conviction but emotion perhaps out of fear that just maybe I am right and you were fooled into believing that Saddam's removal was some how 'important' to your day to day life.

Thou doth protest too much.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Of course he was. His whole political life was devoted to the implementation of federalism. During that era that only meant you wanted to ensure the survival of the Nation and were willing to fight the small-minded simpletons trying to destroy it. He called himself and his followers federal-republicans so you could say that he considered himself a republican.

Unfortunately for you, YOU don't get to chose the terminology.

[AdamSelene235]

federalism

n : the idea of a federal organization of more or less self-governing units

Better make that less.

They should have called themselves Nationalists.

[justshutupandtakeit]

In Hamilton's day the federal government was tiny with very little impact upon the life of the average citizen. It was as federal as they come though the states were far more powerful than the federal government. He and Madison changed the balance of power so that there actually was a chance for federalism and it worked marvelously well. A by-product of these giants thought was the US Constitution and the federalist papers two of the greatest achievements of political philosophy ever created.

It still works to this day and we have a nation composed of states that are quite varied and which differ politically, economically and socially in many respects. Hamilton and Washington would be proud of their achievements and those of their descendents.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I am aware of his tendencies but occasionally his posts are useful. Not that they support his contentions but by undermining them actually lead to reality. His reliance upon such tactics does us all a service since the vacuity of his thought is well exposed to observers. They help him not. But #1 that is a pretty high (low) rating and the competition is fierce depending upon the topic. Certainly he is one of the most egregious among a crowd.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I am sure those designations are just as much in error.

[justshutupandtakeit]

One can always wish for a miracle but don't hold your breath waiting.

[mr.pink]

My first impression was sadly correct - you are a nut.

I've yet to form an opinion about you....but if condescention and insults are your preferred style, I can play it that way too.

[JohnGalt]

You are losing your grip on reality, Son.

Mylroie will betray anyone if it ensures the gravy train will continue to provide her with a living. Unwilling to admit you were duped, like any conspiracy theorist, you simply expand the size of the conspiracy, just as Mylroie is doing on her speaking tour right now. If your new tact is to call me dishonest and a liar, that is fine, it will only marginalize your increasingly alienated tin foil hat theories.

[Joy Angela]

Thanks for the bump!

[JohnGalt]

Sheep.