Saddam and 9/11

Frontpage Magazine ^ | 1/8/2004 | Jamie Glazov

[justshutupandtakeit]

What would you expect from one who takes the name of the hero in a work by a pissant philosopher, bad novelist and uncomprehending economist. May as well adopt the name of a Daniel Steele hero.

[justshutupandtakeit]

A New Deal Conservationist is exactly what? A nature lover?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Now that is some funny posting, keep it up. You call me a defender of FDR then reference a man who VOTED for the man as supporting your view. You talk about my fellow travelers then reference approvingly a man making his charges in socialist newspapers and working hand in glove in communist front organisations.

Our enemies and the enemies of freedom would love to have our military restricted to America. NOTHING could make them happier and NOTHING would be more harmful to us and the rest of the world.

T'would be better for you to work out your internal conflicts before bothering the rest of us with such blather. Modern medicine can work wonders even with schizophrenia.

[JohnGalt]

If you don't know who Smedly Butler is, don't post an opinion and be thought a sheep. These were complex American lives, just like a MacArthur. You rely on an your simple yelling to end the debate which is why you defend with your integrity, a Clintonite phony like Mylroie.

[JohnGalt]

I was thinking an apoligist for socialism; I just had a hard time putting it under the context of 'conservatism' so I borrowed a word from the greens.

[JohnGalt]

Your interpretation is contrived to fit your Hamiltonian internationalist world view. Your commitment to your ideology precludes you of thinking outside the narrow parameters you have set for yourself in order to make sense of current position.

Your own flesh and blood is an extension of this world view so I would expect you to defend this world view with nothing short of your life. But this is a political board, not a tin foil theory board to promote the Clintonite of the moment's book and speaking tour.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Why would you think I was unaware of Smedley before your hilarious link? Why would you think he should be considered important or even relevent as a political thinker? He was an excellent example of the reason the military in America is under Civilian control.

You call me a tinfoilhatter and quote Smedley Butler and link an article which is as screwy as they come. LOL that is a real gut buster. Who is next- Congressman McFadden?

Mylroie is no Clintonite. Even if she were her work has to be evaluated on its own and it makes Clinton look worse than any book written about him by acknowledged and acclaimed Clinton-haters.

Your third sentence is even more gibberish-filled than normal.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Since "socialism" is thrown around here with little understanding of what the term actually means it is impossible to respond to such an absurd charge. To you I suppose a socialist is someone whose thinking is not based upon your misconceptions of the beliefs of the Founders. Or who actually understands there is more to the Earth than the United States.

You apparently need some rest since your spelling and sentence structure are sliding from mere nonsense into incoherence.

[justshutupandtakeit]

First of all Hamilton was NOT an internationalist but a Nationalist. He would not have opposed some features of internationalism had the Nation been strong economically and militarily. But it was new, weak with an army measured in the hundreds and a navy that was practically non-existent. This (and the fear of foreign involvement leading to civil war) was the rationale for no foreign involvements during the day of the FA (1796).

However, it is typical of you to level absurd and patently false charges about other posters' and historical figures' beliefs.

Anyone who has read my myriad of posts cannot rationally claim that I am dominated by or committed to an ideology other than representative democracy. Nor that a I a narrow view (other than doing what is necessary to protect and promote the United States' interests.)

Your claim that this is not a "tin foil theory board" is contradicted by your own posts wrt to Smedley Butler, a man who defines tin foil theorist. LoL

[JohnGalt]

Hamiltonian internationalism is the political science term hung on the necks of conservative internationalists; I would embrace it since it allows you to claim some lineage with the founders and shed the Rockefeller Republican thing.

I consider the socialists the less radical of the Marxists. I consider a socialist anyone who believes that something other than 'liberty' is the proper end of government and has no real objection to the enforcement of the socialist agenda from DC.

I am partially dyslexic and when I don't have time to proof read like in between meetings, it does all go to hell.

[mr.pink]

Not to be in prison? Based on what? You sound like a nutjob to me.

Okay...I'll admit the prison bit was a little wishful thinking on my part....but it's very telling that even a guy like George Will (who swallowed the whole neo-con pre war BS hook, line and sinker) has realized this was a great con perpetrated on the President by the ileaological peers of Mylroi.

Hopefully the whole group of creepy crawlers will be discredited, and some....like Perle, Wolfowitz and Libby, will end up in prison oneday.

God Bless America, and may America punish her internal enemies harshly.

[Peach]

My first impression was sadly correct - you are a nut.

[Lee'sGhost]

"The Left has already declared victory because their charges are going unrefuted by the Administration."

Based on past actions, I'd be willing to bet that Dubya is letting them pile as many eggs into that basket as they can. Why refute it now and cause the dims try and fabricate yet other issues? Let them continue to think they have something until about the end of September and THEN drop the dime.

[justshutupandtakeit]

There is no "Rockefeller Republican thing" for me to shed. He never had enough influence to even get a nomination much less stop the Party from pursuing entirely different courses from that he would recommend. It is a meaningless term to any who know something about the history of the GOP. Even if it weren't it has no relation to me or anything I have ever said. Certainly President Bush is not in that camp though his father leaned slightly in that direction prior to becoming VP. Nor is there any political scientist (LaRouche doesn't count) who calls Hamilton and internationalist. He was a Continentalist.

"Liberty" can never be an end of government though proper government must not arbitrarily and unnecessarily restrict liberty. It is sheer rhetoric used mainly by those unaware that government 200 yrs ago was far more repressive of liberty than ours is today. The ability to escape civilization and run to the wilderness is no longer an option and that was the only true "liberty" possessed by (some of) our forefathers. If you want to examine some real idiocy and lunatic beliefs our nation's history provides excellent examples. Crackpot ideas were a dime a dozen and mostly swarming around the proto-DemocRATs, the Jeffersonians, of that era. Lying press, cheating politicians, corruption and character assassination all were part of the DemocRAT-Republican arsenal. Today's RAT is an direct descendant of the conniving cheating RAT of Burr/Jefferson/Clinton/Tammaney.

Aside from all that your definition of socialism is not only incorrect but meaningless which explains why you are confused about the agenda from DC. There is NO agenda from DC merely from the representatives of the American People. Thus, it can be truly said the agenda of the People itself.
That is what must be changed if it is not to your liking. Any idea this is imposed upon an unwilling population is silly. Unaware or unthinking perhaps but not unwilling.

[JohnGalt]

I am not calling Hamilton an internationalist; I am, as I stated, talking about the label that has been given to your neck of the ideological woods: Hamiltonian internationalism.

"Liberty" can never be an end of government
Justshupandtakeit

"You are not to inquire how your trade may be increased, nor how you are to become a great and prosperous people, but how your liberties can be secured; for liberty ought to be the end of your government."
Patrick Henry

After much consideration, I'll ride it out with Pat Henry.

[Peach]

You are correct, in EVERYTHING you said. Ditto and more.

[JohnGalt]

She worked for Clinton.

To me, not only is that an inexcusable offense, but after her disloyalty to Bush I, she is certainly a classic example of a parasite to power.

You are more forgiving, I guess, or more easily led.

[AdamSelene235]

First of all Hamilton was NOT an internationalist but a Nationalist.

Egggszactly....

He sure as hell wasn't a Federalist.

[doug from upland]

I want her for my show.