[Land of the Free 04]

the most important advantage Republicans have over Democrats is that Republicans can win elections without the black vote; Democrats can’t.

In the meantime, Republicans should continue to do what they do best: defending the country, supporting policies that foster economic growth, fighting for the sanctity of the family, the unborn and the dignity of the individual.

Once blacks are fed up with liberal lies, fear, resentment and mistrust (and being passed over for leadership positions), perhaps they’ll return to the party that set them free. And once they get a taste of real freedom, Democrats will be in trouble. Deep trouble.

Hear, hear!

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[TheGunny]

In short......ignorance is bliss.

[mhking]

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[suzyq5558]

Memo to Republicans: Popping up in black church services and doing sound bites on urban radio won’t cut it.
I don't really think thats what republicans had in mind since popping up in black churches to stump seems to be strictly a dem phenomena.

[Captain Kirk]

Republicans will not to "continue" to fight for the "dignity of the individual" because they "discontinued" that fight long ago. They are just another big government party. Why should blacks vote for them since switching to the GOP would just be a matter of choosing a different chair on the Titanic?

[11B3]

Once there is a cadre of respected blacks within the community who can see through the Rats tactics and get the truth out there, the Rats will be finished. They won't take "our word" for it - even though it is the Republicans who have always told them the truth.

That same cadre of leaders - real LEADERS unlike Jesse and Al - will also be the ones who will strip away that constant shroud of victimhood from the entire community. Then Dr King's dream will come true. I certainly hope to see it soon.

[longtermmemmory]

Even a 5% shift would sink the democrat party.

[2banana]

Another great point of the paradox of the "bond" between blacks and white liberal politicians:

In New York State (and sadly repeated all over the union)- for the years 1997 through 1999 there were more dead black babies because of abortion than born.

In the year 2000 stats showed that there were scant 1824 more born black babies than aborted.

Source: http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vital_statistics/index.htm

Black baby statistics for NY State:

2000 1999 1998 1997
Total live births: 54,498 55,393 54,112 54,948
Total abortions: 52,674 53,045 55,763 58,364

And blacks still believe white liberals are their friends.

[Dionysius]

The Republicans have been talking about breaking the Dem hold on the black vote it seems like forever. But here in St. Louis we have the biannual roundup of African Americans by the Dem power brokers and the subsequent drive to the polls (on buses, taxis, rickshaws, anything that moves). I swear you think you're watching "Rawhide". Some of the cattle even belong to "that ghost herd in the sky". I'm sure the "head 'em up, move 'em out" theme is played out in every major city. Before they can change their brand, the Republicans must change their herd mentality which is driving them to destruction

[rdb3]

Conservatives have a healthy distrust of the federal government and believe its powers should be limited to only those enumerated in the U.S. Constitution. To most blacks, however, limited government brings to mind “states’ rights,” which in turn evokes images of Southern whites and their resentment of federal intervention in local affairs during de-segregation.

The rights of the states are at the heart of a good constitutional republic, but blacks won’t easily forget it was the federal government that enforced their civil rights after Reconstruction, got them jobs under the New Deal and protected them from billy clubs, dogs and water hoses in the 1960s. Do you blame them for believing a bloated, central bureaucracy is still savior even in 2004?

This is correct. States Rights were a boot on our necks. Slavery and Jim Crow were defended strongly in the name of States Rights.

Federalism needs strong individual States in order to function properly. But let's be honest. Those who used States Rights for nefarious reasons are the ones who ultimately killed them. They had no one to blame but themselves.

[dwd1]

Just to keep the record straight, Eisenhower sent the Federal Troops to Little Rock...

[dwd1]

You can look to the hostile rhetoric concerning black issues on this forum for your answer as to why courting the "black vote" is problematic.... You have to deal with the perception issues... Imagine if a black person other than myself read some of the things that are posted here.... There is a general sense of "black people are either whining or complaining or breaking the law or demanding a welfare increase" And the other thing that needs to be told more are the stories about the successful black conservatives... What I see way too much are discussions about reparations, affirmative action, Kobe, Michael, Jesse Jackson, etc... The biggest mistake that Republicans make when talking to black people is proceeding from the assumption that we are all the same... A black conservative like myself has too stand up and say "This is what I think and this is how I feel!" I too often see in many corners where we are not asked anything. We are told what we are thinking and why we are doing something we shouldn't and we are failing without anyone really listening to what we have to say....

Republicans and Democrats make too many assumptions about what we think. That needs to stop...

The negatives in the black community are well known.. But I think that just as whites get tired of hearing about slavery and having it thrown in their faces, we get just as tired of hearing about affirmative action, etc...

I think the divisive rhetoric that I see in Republican and Democratic Circles oversimplify our problems and issues. I see Democrats pandering and I see Republicans spending a lot of time scoring political points at our expense. I am not talking about what I hear the Democrats talking about in reference to Republicans. I am talking about what I hear the republicans saying....

If you really want to recruit blacks into the Republican Party, you could start with one simple question... "What's on your mind?"

I see the bad news mhking tells about blacks on a regular basis and I see the "I don't care" or "They deserve it" or "It's their fault" attitude. I know that racism is not at the core of many of the statements posted here. It is just the conservative way. But I say this... There have been just as many Allen Bakkes in black skin as in white skin. There have been people mistreated by law enforcement from all different backgrounds. The divisive rhetoric or the attitude that the only way I will be welcome in the conservative ranks is if I say nothing but bad things about the black community or black people... Needs a little work....

And there is a perception that also only ultra conservative blacks have a place in the Republican party... Most black people I know are conservative fiscally and moderate to conservative socially... More Colin Powells... Less Janice Rogers Brown... Too many black people look at her as the exception and not the rule... Powell is accepted and trusted in the black community because he is not ultra conservative on everything.... Get the moderates into the party....

And you will have a hard time convincing anyone that the Party of Lincoln is the same party of today... Everyone knows about Jim Crow, the compromise of 1877, Plessy vs. Ferguson, and all those other wonderful things that Democrats and Republicans let happen... Best thing to do would be to acknowledge that the past of both parties has some things that in retrospect, could be perceived as unfair, and find a way to look to a future where a meritocracy is the primary goal...

Never forget the past but try each day to make a better future... The Republicans can sell the future and where they are going.... They can sell it on merit... That is what the message from the Republicans should contain...