[Devil_Anse]

The cautious people don't get the publicity. In fact, some of them don't really want the publicity, even though it would mean more money.

You and I have gone through the higher education system. It pains me to say it, but the higher one goes, the more flagrant examples of cheating one sees. Some of these people are cut-throat, and will stop at nothing, even out-and-out fraud, to get the grades.

I made moderately good grades. I used to wish I had a T-shirt that said, "I don't cheat, and I have the grades to prove it." There were some big-time cheaters who made it to the very top levels of the class. There were also some big-time studiers who did that; their massive effort was cheapened by what the cheaters did.

My not cheating, either in school or in life in general, is not the result of my being some super-moral model person. I don't cheat b/c I would rather be able to sleep at night! I'm sure there are many better people who feel the same way.

[drjulie]

"There were some big-time cheaters who made it to the very top levels of the class. There were also some big-time studiers who did that; their massive effort was cheapened by what the cheaters did."

How true. We spend a significant amount of time and effort today in academia preventing & dealing with academic dishonesty. I guess it is just a reflection of the sad state of our society. Oh and don't forget Scott - what a cheater. I know he is not on trial for marital infidelity but we certainly can gain insight into his character by examining his honesty in relationships.