Of Gringos and Old Grudges: This Land Is Their Land

The New York Times ^ | January 9, 2004 | TIM WEINER

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[MattinNJ]

1) To be logically consistent, if the Mexicans assert a claim to the SW U.S based on it being theirs first, they would then haveto give it back to Spain

2) The Mexicans routinely murder Guatemalans, Costa Ricans, etc... who cross their southern border. Every contractor I talk to who uses these guys would tell you they would rather have Guatemalans work for them then Mexicans.

[GrandEagle]

explain why relations between the nations are sometimes so tense.
come on then... Try and take it back.

[navyblue]

So I guess this is the liberal media's beginning of the psychological brainwashing of the American public.

Our people simply have to understand that this land really belongs to them and we are illegally occupying it!

Ah yes! Let the brainwashing begin!

[FormerLib]

Now, that civilization is taking another turn. More than half of the 20 million Mexicans north of the border live on the land that once was theirs. Some 8.5 million live in California — a quarter of the population. Nearly half the people of New Mexico have roots in old Mexico. Mexico is, in a sense, slowly reoccupying its former property.

Perhaps the US better rethink about how the Albanians are attempting to steal Kosovo from Serbia.

Although I certainly wouldn't have any object to handing southern California to Mexico, so long as they take San Francisco in the deal!

[BeerSwillr]

Nine days later, prospectors struck gold in California.

As if to say what exactly? That mexicans would have discovered the gold? Ha.

What was the last thing Jesus said to the mexicans?

Name all your kids after me and don't do anything until I get back.

[jeremiah]

Let's see, the Spanish stole the land from the Indians, we took it from them, and we are the usurpers? Methinks the only problem with Mexico, is they are ethnically cleansing their country. Time to put up a wall, even if it is only electronic, and stop the flow North. Deport illegals by fining employers huge amounts when caught, and emptying our jails of those caught breaking the law, straight into Mexico. They will quit coming, when they can no longer get free medical and schooling, and can no longer work............problem solved. If we then need workers(after loosening laws to allow children to work again, and ridding ourselves of minimum wage laws), we can allow them in as need be. Then again, I am not running for election, and am free to do what is right, not having to worry about kissing a**es. Too bad being a leader, and doing what is right, is only possible if you have no power.

[KantianBurke]

"In the United States, almost no one remembers the war that Americans fought against Mexico more than 150 years ago."

Sums up why this country works and their country wallows in the 3rd world. We move ahead and create. They bitch and moan about a past that's almost 2 centuries old.

[Spok]

If the Mexicans are hostile foreign nationals nursing a 150 year old grudge, perhaps we should be a little more circumspect about inviting them into our living rooms...hmmmm?

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...To realize that the border was fixed by war and controlled by the victors is to understand...

That the Mexicans must have won, because we certainly have no control over the border.

[onedoug]

Perpetual victimhood.

[gubamyster]

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[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...But sensitivities about sovereignty surround every thorny issue involving Americans in Mexico. Can Americans buy land? Sometimes. Drill for oil? Never. Can American officers comb airports in Mexico? Yes. Carry guns as lawmen? No. Open and close the border at will? Well, they try...


No, they don't try.
The only thing American citizens are good for these days is siezing their earnings to prop up every half-witted scheme on earth.

[joesnuffy]

The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof...they only thing anyone is entitled to is what God gives them and what He lets them keep....

Everyone tries to use any emotional appeal they can faulty logic force and lies notwithstanding to get what they want or steal what they want and then try to keep it...by those same means..

Mexicans got nothing coming...but mean to take everything they can get their hands on...
Worst part is ..they have allies in CONUS willing to help them....for a price....

[WackyKat]

Nearly half the people of New Mexico have roots in old Mexico. Mexico is, in a sense, slowly reoccupying its former property. "History extracts its costs with the passage of time," said Jesús Velasco Márquez, a professor who has long studied the war. "We are the biggest minority in the United States, and particularly in the territory that once was ours."

Exactly. An aggressive Mexican irredentist movement is beginning to gain momentum

And it will get far worse

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

They have almost completed the task of retaking it.
No resistance will be offered.

[Our man in washington]

Furthermore, the Mexicans didn't really conquer much of the southwest in the first place. The Mexicans may have laid claim to Comanche territory in west Texas and eastern New Mexico, but they never settled there. They couldn't defeat the Comanches. Thus, any claim of ownership to these territories is false.