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To: RussianConservative
Dont be so ignorant.The Arab world has given us the telescope(Hasan),the first watch(Kubti)and they also invented photography as early as the 11th century and also the pendulum and the tangent in maths.Also spherical triganometry.Not to mention Omar Khayyam and the great civilisation of the Moors.......who brought ancient greek/roman literature and science back to Europe after almost a millenium.The extremists in any religion are a minority(its not muslims blowing up Oklahoma or abortion clinics/killing doctors).............
31 posted on 01/09/2004 4:35:49 PM PST by scotsman1 (islam)
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To: scotsman1
Omar Khayyam and the great civilisation of the Moors

Moorish civilization only short period of some 200 years till Christian population mostly kill off and most based upon existing Gallic knowledge inherent of Roman civilization.

Ok, so since let us say 10% of Islamic homocidal, now that only make 150 million peoples who want to exterminate you. If on average they kill onl 3 peoples each, that is 450 million dead infedil...don't worry, you might not be one...if you are not already Muslim.

Further, show me one holy book of any other faith that is pro rape of infedils, slavery of infedils, murder of infedils, keeping certain infedils (Christian/Jew) as second class citizen...Dimmi. One holy book that bosts of prophet who lie, steal, assassinate and extermiante. Who use slaves, is pedophile (last wife of Muhammed was 6 years old when he 56)....yes, lovely faith. But as Mohammed said to world: commets are shot from nostrils of Allah to chase demons, and since Mohammed is perfect in all ways and only prophet of Allah almighty, this must be truth.

34 posted on 01/09/2004 10:57:35 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: scotsman1
Who is ignorant now?:

Telescope: Here

In the literature of white magic, so popular in the sixteenth century, there are several tantalizing references to devices that would allow one to see one's enemies or count coins from a great distance. But these allusions were cast in obscure language and were accompanied by fantastic claims; the telescope, when it came, was a very humble and simple device. It is possible that in the 1570s Leonard and Thomas Digges in England actually made an instrument consisting of a convex lens and a mirror, but if this proves to be the case, it was an experimental setup that was never translated into a mass-produced device.[3]

The telescope was unveiled in the Netherlands. In October 1608, the States General (the national government) in The Hague discussed the patent applications first of Hans Lipperhey of Middelburg, and then of Jacob Metius of Alkmaar, on a device for "seeing faraway things as though nearby." It consisted of a convex and concave lens in a tube, and the combination magnified three or four times.[4] The gentlemen found the device too easy to copy to award the patent, but it voted a small award to Metius and employed Lipperhey to make several binocular versions, for which he was paid handsomely. It appears that another citizen of Middelburg, Sacharias Janssen had a telescope at about the same time but was at the Frankfurt Fair where he tried to sell it.

The earliest known illlustration of a telescope. Giovanpattista della Porta included this sketch in a letter written in August 1609 The news of this new invention spread rapidly through Europe, and the device itself quickly followed. By April 1609 three-powered spyglasses could be bought in spectacle-maker's shops on the Pont Neuf in Paris, and four months later there were several in Italy. (fig. 4) We know that Thomas Harriot observed the Moon with a six-powered instrument early in August 1609. But it was Galileo who made the instrument famous. He constructed his first three-powered spyglass in June or July 1609, presented an eight-powered instrument to the Venetian Senate in August, and turned a twenty-powered instrument to the heavens in October or November. With this instrument (fig. 5) he observed the Moon, discovered four satellites of Jupiter, and resolved nebular patches into stars. He published\Sidereus Nuncius in March 1610.

35 posted on 01/09/2004 11:02:20 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: scotsman1
Tell more lies: Watch and Pendulum Here

Modern Clock Trivia In 1577, Jost Burgi invented the minute hand. Burgi's invention was part of a clock made for Tycho Brahe, an astronomer who needed an accurate clock for his stargazing. In 1656, the pendulum was invented by Christian Huygens, making clocks more accurate. In 1504, the first portable (but not very accurate) timepiece was invented in Nuremberg, Germany by Peter Henlein. The first reported person to actually wear a watch on the wrist was the French mathematician and philosopher, Blaise Pascal (1623-1662). With a piece of string, he attached his pocket watch to his wrist. The word 'clock' comes from the French word "cloche" meaning bell. The Latin for bell is glocio, the Saxon is clugga and the German is glocke. Sir Sanford Fleming invented standard time in 1878.

36 posted on 01/09/2004 11:04:34 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: scotsman1
An early prototype of the alarm clock was invented by the Greeks around 250 BC. The Greeks built a water clock where the raising waters would both keep time and eventually hit a mechanical bird that triggered an alarming whistle. The first mechanical alarm clock was invented by Levi Hutchins of Concord, New Hampshire, in 1787. However, the ringing bell alarm on his clock could ring only at 4 am. On October 24, 1876 a mechanical wind-up alarm clock that could be set for any time was patented (#183,725) by Seth E Thomas.
37 posted on 01/09/2004 11:05:47 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: scotsman1
Tangents:

Apollonius of Perga (ca 262 BC - 190 BC)

Apollonius was born in Perga in Pamphilia (now Turkey), but was possibly educated in Alexandria where he spent some time teaching. Very little is known of his life. He seems to have felt himself a rival of Archimedes. In any event he worked on similar problems. He was known as the ``great geometer" because of his work on conics. Apollonius wrote many books. All but one are lost. Among those we know he wrote are:

Quick Delivery Cutting-off of a Ratio Cutting-off of an Area On Determinate Section
Tangencies
Vergings (Inclinations)
Plane Loci
Apollonius was 25 years younger than Archimedes, and they together with Euclid stood well above all other mathematicians of the first century of this period. Because of them, this period is sometimes called the ``golden age" of Greek mathematics. In his book Quick Delivery (lost), he gives the approximation to as 3.1416. We do not know his method. His only known work is On Conics - 8 Books only 4 survive. Features: Using the double oblique cone he constructs the conics parabola, ellipse, hyperbola, whose names he fixed for all time. He made use of the idea of Symptoms which were similar to equations, there results an analytic-like geometry - but without coordinates! Proposition I-33. If AC is constructed, where |AE| = |ED|, then AC is tangent to the parabola

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646 - 1716)

The only papers of first-rate importance which he produced are those on the differential calculus. The earliest of these was one published in the Acta Eruditorum for October, 1684, in which he enunciated a general method for finding maxima and minima, and for drawing tangents to curves. One inverse problem, namely, to find the curve whose subtangent is constant, was also discussed. The notation is the same as that with which we are familiar, and the differential coefficients of and of products and quotients are determined. In 1686 he wrote a paper on the principles of the new calculus. In both of these papers the principle of continuity is explicitly assumed, while his treatment of the subject is based on the use of infinitesimals and not on that of the limiting value of ratios. In answer to some objections which were raised in 1694 by Bernard Nieuwentyt, who asserted that dy/dx stood for an unmeaning quantity like 0/0, Leibnitz explained, in the same way that Barrow had previously done, that the value of dy/dx in geometry could be expressed as the ratio of two finite quantities.

38 posted on 01/09/2004 11:18:32 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: scotsman1
Oh and most Islamic contribution to math not Arab but Persian...oops, slight distinction...but then there is little fact of this:

Who Destroyed Alexandria's Famous Library?

The Library of Alexandria was one of the best-known of the libraries of the ancient world. One of the interesting facts about the ancient world that seems to be missing from many history books is that there were many great collections of books and literature in ancient times and most were open to any scholar from anywhere in the world.

The library at Alexandria actually competed with that at Pergamum in amassing the most complete collection of books in the world. This went on in the 200's B. C., and it is interesting to note that there were already so many works in existence that obtaining a copy of each would have been an impossible undertaking even then. The destruction of this priceless treasure was a stroke of the most unimaginable bad luck. If Byzantine Egypt had been taken by one of the later Islamic conquerors, this irreplaceable collection would have been counted amongst the finest of the spoils of war to fall into a victor's hands.

Early in the year A. D. 642, Alexandria surrendered to Amrou, the Islamic general leading the armies of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad. Long one of the most important cities of the ancient world and capital of Byzantine Egypt, Alexandria surrendered only after a long siege and attempts to rescue the city by the Byzantines. On the orders of Omar, Caliph of Baghdad, the entire collection of books (except for the works of Aristotle) stored at the Library of Alexandria were removed and used as fuel to heat water for the city's public baths.

This is not the first time the library was damaged or destroyed. Originally built to house the massive collection of books accumulated by the Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt, the library had been devastated by fire several times. During Julius Caesar's Alexandrian campaign in 47 B. C., Caesar set fire to ships in the port. The fire spread to the library, which was called the Museum at that time.

In A. D. 391, riots instigated by fanatical Christians damaged the collection heavily. During the years between disastrous events, the library collection had been gradually restored. In 641, the Caliph of Baghdad exhibited the same spirit of religious fanaticism in ordering Amrou to burn the books stored there. The loss of the library at Alexandria was a particularly grievous blow because the works of so many Roman scholars. literary geniuses, and historians were destroyed.

- Source: San Jose State University

39 posted on 01/09/2004 11:29:39 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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